1 00:00:05,690 --> 00:00:03,260 warning if you like your UFO literature 2 00:00:08,059 --> 00:00:05,700 to confirm what you already know this is 3 00:00:09,709 --> 00:00:08,069 not the book for you from white crow 4 00:00:12,709 --> 00:00:09,719 books comes a brand-new collection of 5 00:00:14,900 --> 00:00:12,719 essays fourteen authors one goal to 6 00:00:17,810 --> 00:00:14,910 shatter the UFO topic and pick up the 7 00:00:19,790 --> 00:00:17,820 pieces in a whole new light compiled and 8 00:00:22,429 --> 00:00:19,800 edited by Robbie Graham with a foreword 9 00:00:25,310 --> 00:00:22,439 by Professor Diana Walsh basillica UFOs 10 00:00:27,620 --> 00:00:25,320 reframing the debate is a cold hard slap 11 00:00:28,130 --> 00:00:27,630 in the face for ufology delivered with 12 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:28,140 love 13 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:31,170 UFOs reframing the debate available now 14 00:00:34,700 --> 00:00:32,489 in paperback and ebook 15 00:00:37,220 --> 00:00:34,710 on Amazon and at Barnes & Noble the Book 16 00:00:38,750 --> 00:00:37,230 Depository and the iBooks store for a 17 00:00:50,150 --> 00:00:38,760 complete list of contributors and to 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:50,160 learn more visit Robbie Graham UK this 19 00:01:26,410 --> 00:00:54,650 is somewhere in the sky the Brian Stein 20 00:01:28,970 --> 00:01:26,420 [Music] 21 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:28,980 so you're probably wondering what that 22 00:01:34,220 --> 00:01:32,010 song was all about well this episode is 23 00:01:36,740 --> 00:01:34,230 a mash-up of sorts for the first 24 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:36,750 in-studio interview we are joined by my 25 00:01:41,870 --> 00:01:39,210 good friend and colleague Andrew Sanford 26 00:01:44,150 --> 00:01:41,880 Andrew is a writer and performer here in 27 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:44,160 New York City as a writer he has written 28 00:01:49,490 --> 00:01:46,050 a full-length graphic novel called 29 00:01:51,770 --> 00:01:49,500 Gwendolen that was published in 2014 he 30 00:01:56,870 --> 00:01:51,780 is also choice been a featured writer in 31 00:01:59,540 --> 00:01:56,880 the 2014 and 2016 ABC Studios new talent 32 00:02:01,370 --> 00:01:59,550 showcase when he isn't writing he is the 33 00:02:04,340 --> 00:02:01,380 host of the popular current events 34 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:04,350 comedy podcast half-white son of a black 35 00:02:09,230 --> 00:02:06,570 man today Andrew and I have a 36 00:02:12,199 --> 00:02:09,240 light-hearted but deep conversation 37 00:02:15,199 --> 00:02:12,209 about the entire UFO and alien question 38 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:15,209 it was a refreshing and no-holds-barred 39 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:17,970 discussion between a skeptic and a 40 00:02:24,590 --> 00:02:20,370 belief was one of us swayed either way 41 00:02:25,910 --> 00:02:24,600 find out right now alright guys so it's 42 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:25,920 a little different we're going to shake 43 00:02:29,540 --> 00:02:28,530 things up this week and we're going to 44 00:02:32,479 --> 00:02:29,550 be talking to a buddy of mine 45 00:02:34,430 --> 00:02:32,489 Andrew sent for this is the first studio 46 00:02:36,590 --> 00:02:34,440 interview we're doing I've been 47 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:36,600 listening to Andrews podcasts for a 48 00:02:41,060 --> 00:02:38,970 while now I've been featured on it one 49 00:02:42,770 --> 00:02:41,070 of the funniest things out there Andrew 50 00:02:44,930 --> 00:02:42,780 thanks for joining me today my man thank 51 00:02:48,500 --> 00:02:44,940 you I am may be there with your sweet 52 00:02:49,970 --> 00:02:48,510 words when would you sweet words but 53 00:02:53,780 --> 00:02:49,980 just read the words you come out of your 54 00:02:55,460 --> 00:02:53,790 mouth you all nice and sweet thank you 55 00:02:57,470 --> 00:02:55,470 man or yeah you were actually on the 56 00:02:59,600 --> 00:02:57,480 second I think I interviewed you on the 57 00:03:02,330 --> 00:02:59,610 second episode I think you're right and 58 00:03:02,660 --> 00:03:02,340 we talked about a li yes we did yes we 59 00:03:04,580 --> 00:03:02,670 did 60 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:04,590 yeah ever I remember very specifically 61 00:03:07,729 --> 00:03:05,850 actually because it was something that I 62 00:03:09,289 --> 00:03:07,739 was very interested in is there was 63 00:03:11,060 --> 00:03:09,299 something that happened at the time that 64 00:03:13,699 --> 00:03:11,070 I can't remember if it was debunked or 65 00:03:15,920 --> 00:03:13,709 was just something that was just proven 66 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:15,930 to be kind of like a hoax in general um 67 00:03:20,990 --> 00:03:18,090 and I was interested in your thoughts 68 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:21,000 and how that affected you and how that 69 00:03:24,500 --> 00:03:22,890 kept you going is somebody who believes 70 00:03:26,570 --> 00:03:24,510 from this kind of stuff when more often 71 00:03:29,420 --> 00:03:26,580 than not yeah we will hear stories that 72 00:03:31,759 --> 00:03:29,430 end up being false that's how it's how 73 00:03:33,590 --> 00:03:31,769 it is to you know keep hold and 74 00:03:36,740 --> 00:03:33,600 obviously nothing has stopped you since 75 00:03:39,020 --> 00:03:36,750 I think you're doing all right oh thanks 76 00:03:43,700 --> 00:03:39,030 I do specifically remember this was the 77 00:03:45,590 --> 00:03:43,710 Roswell slides ah yes we made that play 78 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:45,600 tonight separate emphasis I feel like 79 00:03:49,190 --> 00:03:47,610 that was like last year or this week it 80 00:03:51,170 --> 00:03:49,200 wasn't too long ago I feel like I 81 00:03:54,500 --> 00:03:51,180 brought it back on when that happened um 82 00:03:56,780 --> 00:03:54,510 any home yes no that is a great point 83 00:03:58,970 --> 00:03:56,790 though as it's a testament it detects 84 00:04:01,820 --> 00:03:58,980 women to any researcher out there who's 85 00:04:03,170 --> 00:04:01,830 willing to be looking at this topic I 86 00:04:05,750 --> 00:04:03,180 won't say phenomenon because that's 87 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:05,760 completely separate from the the topic 88 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:09,330 the subculture of ufology the study of 89 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:11,730 it you do you run into hoaxes time and 90 00:04:15,890 --> 00:04:12,810 time again when they're dealing with 91 00:04:17,780 --> 00:04:15,900 something so mysterious and just you 92 00:04:19,340 --> 00:04:17,790 know out there people are going to take 93 00:04:22,340 --> 00:04:19,350 advantage of that they're going to 94 00:04:23,930 --> 00:04:22,350 there's there's no easier way than to 95 00:04:25,730 --> 00:04:23,940 take advantage of someone's beliefs 96 00:04:28,220 --> 00:04:25,740 right and if they're willing to believe 97 00:04:30,260 --> 00:04:28,230 they will do anything including opening 98 00:04:31,430 --> 00:04:30,270 their wallets and we see a time and time 99 00:04:34,730 --> 00:04:31,440 again it's sad 100 00:04:37,070 --> 00:04:34,740 but we just hope that we can continue to 101 00:04:39,260 --> 00:04:37,080 do our own work and the most credible 102 00:04:41,719 --> 00:04:39,270 cases out there and there's tons of them 103 00:04:42,950 --> 00:04:41,729 out there or and you know it said that 104 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:42,960 the ones that get the most attention 105 00:04:47,060 --> 00:04:45,090 usually are the hoaxes or the very 106 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:47,070 sensational stuff but I appreciate that 107 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:48,690 but we're not here to talk about me 108 00:04:53,450 --> 00:04:50,970 we're here to talk about you man please 109 00:04:55,460 --> 00:04:53,460 tell people about your podcast it is 110 00:04:57,140 --> 00:04:55,470 called half-wit son of a black man comes 111 00:04:59,300 --> 00:04:57,150 out pretty regular we're actually up to 112 00:05:01,790 --> 00:04:59,310 we're on a nice steady schedule recently 113 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:01,800 it's a let's see episode 82 just came 114 00:05:05,900 --> 00:05:03,330 out my line I would say about six 115 00:05:08,090 --> 00:05:05,910 episodes I took the format and shook it 116 00:05:09,230 --> 00:05:08,100 up a little bit I needed a change like I 117 00:05:12,100 --> 00:05:09,240 remember at the beginning I had an 118 00:05:15,350 --> 00:05:12,110 interview on every episode and it was to 119 00:05:17,270 --> 00:05:15,360 interview actors who had day jobs that 120 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:17,280 weren't your standard kind of day job or 121 00:05:22,550 --> 00:05:20,250 just working actors in general so then 122 00:05:24,530 --> 00:05:22,560 that led into like it was that with like 123 00:05:25,940 --> 00:05:24,540 a round table and then it I kept it at 124 00:05:27,590 --> 00:05:25,950 just the round table and it would be 125 00:05:29,150 --> 00:05:27,600 different guests every time and now I 126 00:05:29,930 --> 00:05:29,160 have these same two guys who are two of 127 00:05:31,700 --> 00:05:29,940 my best friends 128 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:31,710 Michaela Paes and Rob Young you can go 129 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:33,570 to moon monocle calm to check out Mikael 130 00:05:38,590 --> 00:05:35,010 stuff or you can look up to Ron Young 131 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:38,600 online he's a stand-up Michaela writer I 132 00:05:42,770 --> 00:05:41,010 always joke that I purposely have like 133 00:05:44,779 --> 00:05:42,780 one white guy one black guy on there to 134 00:05:46,610 --> 00:05:44,789 split the that's like having a little 135 00:05:47,050 --> 00:05:46,620 angel and devil on my shoulder but I 136 00:05:50,500 --> 00:05:47,060 won't tell 137 00:05:53,020 --> 00:05:50,510 which one is which right um and I've got 138 00:05:55,330 --> 00:05:53,030 we hit with absolutely so now yeah with 139 00:05:56,890 --> 00:05:55,340 I changed the format to add a little bit 140 00:05:58,600 --> 00:05:56,900 more improv in there it used to be like 141 00:06:01,090 --> 00:05:58,610 very topical on top of bass now it's 142 00:06:03,430 --> 00:06:01,100 just more fun and I usually bring on 143 00:06:04,629 --> 00:06:03,440 another guest and yeah we just we do 144 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:04,639 some new segments and then talk about 145 00:06:09,190 --> 00:06:07,130 some topical stuff but uh it that always 146 00:06:11,650 --> 00:06:09,200 skews towards the nerdy too like I feel 147 00:06:13,629 --> 00:06:11,660 like I can't help like Who I am as a 148 00:06:16,150 --> 00:06:13,639 person you can't allow her you are yeah 149 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:16,160 well I had to at the beginning of an 150 00:06:19,270 --> 00:06:17,690 episode a few weeks ago talk about the 151 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:19,280 fact that Batgirl or that Joss Whedon 152 00:06:22,990 --> 00:06:21,530 was making a Batgirl or might be making 153 00:06:25,330 --> 00:06:23,000 a back or a movie it's not even official 154 00:06:27,730 --> 00:06:25,340 yet but it was so exciting that I ended 155 00:06:29,590 --> 00:06:27,740 I had just changed the entire purpose of 156 00:06:32,740 --> 00:06:29,600 the podcast for the first budget feel 157 00:06:36,159 --> 00:06:32,750 like guys it's awesome in that girl come 158 00:06:38,110 --> 00:06:36,169 on very fun for you yeah you know in 159 00:06:40,060 --> 00:06:38,120 terms of who you are what's the name of 160 00:06:43,030 --> 00:06:40,070 the podcast half-white son of a black 161 00:06:45,100 --> 00:06:43,040 man why why why I oh that's why my 162 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:45,110 father is African American 163 00:06:51,850 --> 00:06:47,570 a little Native American and there my 164 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:51,860 mother is a honky now I yeah it was that 165 00:06:55,420 --> 00:06:53,810 was the name that I came up with a few 166 00:06:57,790 --> 00:06:55,430 years like a title that I came up with a 167 00:06:59,200 --> 00:06:57,800 I would say even a few years before I 168 00:07:01,450 --> 00:06:59,210 started the podcast started the podcast 169 00:07:03,700 --> 00:07:01,460 in 2014 I think the name was something I 170 00:07:05,409 --> 00:07:03,710 came up with in like 2011 okay when I 171 00:07:07,719 --> 00:07:05,419 was thinking of like one-man shows to do 172 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:07,729 because I start like I'm mainly a writer 173 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:09,410 now and then I have the podcast but I 174 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:11,450 very much started my career wanting to 175 00:07:15,879 --> 00:07:14,330 be just a performer so I felt like a 176 00:07:17,650 --> 00:07:15,889 one-man show with that title could be 177 00:07:19,180 --> 00:07:17,660 fun and then at a certain point I was 178 00:07:21,010 --> 00:07:19,190 like I have to do something with this 179 00:07:22,930 --> 00:07:21,020 name because I really liked it and I was 180 00:07:25,090 --> 00:07:22,940 like I can brand myself with it a little 181 00:07:26,740 --> 00:07:25,100 bit so now you can go to halfway son of 182 00:07:29,260 --> 00:07:26,750 a black man calm and I'm the guy that 183 00:07:32,230 --> 00:07:29,270 shows up so mission accomplished a 184 00:07:34,870 --> 00:07:32,240 really cool logo by the way wau thing my 185 00:07:37,060 --> 00:07:34,880 good friend Joe cavity drew that who 186 00:07:40,629 --> 00:07:37,070 also drew my comical Gwendolyn which is 187 00:07:42,940 --> 00:07:40,639 no longer publicly available there was a 188 00:07:45,029 --> 00:07:42,950 we had a publisher at one point and then 189 00:07:48,010 --> 00:07:45,039 we just parted ways which happens 190 00:07:50,290 --> 00:07:48,020 so we I've been 191 00:07:51,309 --> 00:07:50,300 messing around with ways that I'm pretty 192 00:07:52,629 --> 00:07:51,319 sure I'm just going to put it on the 193 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:52,639 website at some point cold Oh people 194 00:07:55,839 --> 00:07:53,810 could read it because I loved it it was 195 00:07:57,369 --> 00:07:55,849 a labor of love and I even if I have 196 00:07:59,350 --> 00:07:57,379 become a better writer since then and I 197 00:08:01,950 --> 00:07:59,360 know Joe has become a better artist and 198 00:08:05,619 --> 00:08:01,960 son Joe's amazing but that book is all 199 00:08:08,499 --> 00:08:05,629 he worked his butt off 200 00:08:10,540 --> 00:08:08,509 yeah it shows and it painted in these 201 00:08:12,610 --> 00:08:10,550 whites and blacks and grays and I'm like 202 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:12,620 my writing is OK in that book it has 203 00:08:17,439 --> 00:08:14,330 made a million times better by how 204 00:08:18,999 --> 00:08:17,449 beautiful Joe's work I cannot sing the 205 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:19,009 praises of that enough it's phenomenal 206 00:08:24,730 --> 00:08:22,250 yeah it's a really cool book and I know 207 00:08:26,290 --> 00:08:24,740 we can then wrote many intro for it I 208 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:26,300 did yes 209 00:08:31,300 --> 00:08:28,610 forward Angela which was a complete 210 00:08:33,850 --> 00:08:31,310 honor it was really interesting it you 211 00:08:35,980 --> 00:08:33,860 know it follows this young girl and 212 00:08:38,170 --> 00:08:35,990 please forgive me if I'm butchering this 213 00:08:41,139 --> 00:08:38,180 but she was a demon yes she's 214 00:08:43,839 --> 00:08:41,149 technically she's all about 225 years 215 00:08:46,030 --> 00:08:43,849 old her human body but she was possessed 216 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:46,040 by a demon and it's this whole race of 217 00:08:49,870 --> 00:08:48,050 like demon children they can only 218 00:08:52,269 --> 00:08:49,880 possess people who are under the age of 219 00:08:53,230 --> 00:08:52,279 11 because up until 11 your soul is not 220 00:08:56,470 --> 00:08:53,240 fully developed 221 00:08:58,030 --> 00:08:56,480 and a lot like people yeah right yeah I 222 00:08:59,620 --> 00:08:58,040 was fair I'm always I've always been 223 00:09:01,210 --> 00:08:59,630 obsessed with like adding mythology to 224 00:09:02,470 --> 00:09:01,220 things to like for my first comic book I 225 00:09:05,530 --> 00:09:02,480 was like I want to do something that's 226 00:09:06,850 --> 00:09:05,540 steeped in its own mythology but my 227 00:09:08,410 --> 00:09:06,860 problem was I was like I'm not gonna 228 00:09:10,210 --> 00:09:08,420 fill people in on that they're gonna 229 00:09:12,639 --> 00:09:10,220 figure it out by context clues and it 230 00:09:14,590 --> 00:09:12,649 was a very much an early writers mistake 231 00:09:17,230 --> 00:09:14,600 of being like let's leave him in the dog 232 00:09:20,230 --> 00:09:17,240 let's treat him with mushrooms they're 233 00:09:22,150 --> 00:09:20,240 not gonna know nothing um but it's still 234 00:09:24,010 --> 00:09:22,160 yeah it's still very fun it's about her 235 00:09:25,569 --> 00:09:24,020 she's been in the characters name is 236 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:25,579 Gwendolyn she's been in a self-imposed 237 00:09:31,660 --> 00:09:27,770 exile for about a hundred years and then 238 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:31,670 there's this new creation this new birth 239 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:34,130 of another of her kind which there also 240 00:09:37,060 --> 00:09:35,690 hasn't been for a hundred years that was 241 00:09:39,970 --> 00:09:37,070 part of the truce and that brings her 242 00:09:41,350 --> 00:09:39,980 out of her exile so and then so yeah it 243 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:41,360 goes from there's this mystery to find 244 00:09:46,660 --> 00:09:43,250 out how this births happened and why and 245 00:09:50,260 --> 00:09:46,670 and then it also tells the story of this 246 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:50,270 character named Jerome whose niece was 247 00:09:55,810 --> 00:09:52,970 kidnapped and it's his story running 248 00:09:57,150 --> 00:09:55,820 parallel to gwendolyn's and uh yeah it 249 00:09:59,620 --> 00:09:57,160 was a lot of fun it was definitely 250 00:10:00,720 --> 00:09:59,630 that's the most of one thing that I've 251 00:10:02,850 --> 00:10:00,730 ever written 252 00:10:04,590 --> 00:10:02,860 there's I wrote we wrote the fight that 253 00:10:07,500 --> 00:10:04,600 the first volume is about five issues we 254 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:07,510 wrote five drug drew five he actually 255 00:10:11,759 --> 00:10:09,970 drew six there is a sixth out there we 256 00:10:13,319 --> 00:10:11,769 just never got around like certain 257 00:10:14,759 --> 00:10:13,329 things held up getting it out there and 258 00:10:17,310 --> 00:10:14,769 we also wanted to release the second 259 00:10:19,139 --> 00:10:17,320 volume as one piece as well right but I 260 00:10:21,389 --> 00:10:19,149 wrote out ten scripts like there was ten 261 00:10:23,250 --> 00:10:21,399 like it's out there and I tied it off at 262 00:10:25,319 --> 00:10:23,260 the end to and there was always had 263 00:10:27,030 --> 00:10:25,329 these big grand plans well I love 264 00:10:29,790 --> 00:10:27,040 looking into the future especially with 265 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:29,800 stuff like comic books and I always love 266 00:10:33,900 --> 00:10:31,570 people like Geoff Johns or Scott Snyder 267 00:10:35,879 --> 00:10:33,910 who can take something at the beginning 268 00:10:38,220 --> 00:10:35,889 of their run on like Batman or Green 269 00:10:40,889 --> 00:10:38,230 Lantern and have it tie all the way back 270 00:10:42,060 --> 00:10:40,899 like four years later so that's that was 271 00:10:43,439 --> 00:10:42,070 always in the front of my head when I 272 00:10:45,210 --> 00:10:43,449 was writing that book was I was like 273 00:10:47,790 --> 00:10:45,220 what can I set up now that could come 274 00:10:49,050 --> 00:10:47,800 back later in a real satisfying way you 275 00:10:51,030 --> 00:10:49,060 know who would you say is your biggest 276 00:10:53,910 --> 00:10:51,040 inspiration when it comes to your 277 00:10:56,310 --> 00:10:53,920 writing woo I know it probably varies 278 00:10:58,139 --> 00:10:56,320 from yeah I'm ready um Geoff Johns is 279 00:11:00,600 --> 00:10:58,149 definitely up there I love Geoff Johns 280 00:11:04,230 --> 00:11:00,610 is Geoff Johns is the first comic book 281 00:11:06,300 --> 00:11:04,240 writer who I ever recognized it was one 282 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:06,310 of these things where I was I had a 283 00:11:09,870 --> 00:11:08,050 bunch of I remember I mainly started 284 00:11:11,009 --> 00:11:09,880 collecting just like collections like a 285 00:11:12,689 --> 00:11:11,019 lot of people will just call them 286 00:11:14,009 --> 00:11:12,699 graphic novels but it's a lot of times 287 00:11:17,550 --> 00:11:14,019 like what people consider to be a 288 00:11:20,970 --> 00:11:17,560 graphic novel is issued 23 through issue 289 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:20,980 27 just collected in one in one easy to 290 00:11:26,220 --> 00:11:24,370 hold collection so that's what I really 291 00:11:27,629 --> 00:11:26,230 started with because I get these all the 292 00:11:29,250 --> 00:11:27,639 time and I started notice I was like I 293 00:11:30,750 --> 00:11:29,260 really like this book or this collection 294 00:11:32,370 --> 00:11:30,760 and this collection and I really like 295 00:11:34,980 --> 00:11:32,380 this one and I was like wait those are 296 00:11:36,420 --> 00:11:34,990 all written by the same guy um and that 297 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:36,430 just kind of started that there and he 298 00:11:41,910 --> 00:11:39,610 was like that was I love DC Comics and 299 00:11:43,889 --> 00:11:41,920 he was like DC's number one guy now I 300 00:11:46,199 --> 00:11:43,899 mean he's even more so that now but this 301 00:11:48,990 --> 00:11:46,209 is at a point where he was writing five 302 00:11:50,910 --> 00:11:49,000 comic books a month wishes cool race I 303 00:11:53,639 --> 00:11:50,920 can't even imagine yeah it's and that's 304 00:11:55,290 --> 00:11:53,649 22 pages a book completely different 305 00:11:56,759 --> 00:11:55,300 stories all tied to all these other 306 00:11:58,699 --> 00:11:56,769 things and that's why I like he's you 307 00:12:00,960 --> 00:11:58,709 know in charge of the movies now right 308 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:00,970 so I love Geoff Johns and I've always 309 00:12:05,340 --> 00:12:03,490 loved Stephen King as well 310 00:12:06,569 --> 00:12:05,350 Stephen kid liked comic book guys nice 311 00:12:08,250 --> 00:12:06,579 gesture I could go on and on with 312 00:12:11,130 --> 00:12:08,260 different inspirations I get from 313 00:12:13,449 --> 00:12:11,140 different people Grant Morrison I always 314 00:12:15,970 --> 00:12:13,459 suggest people because he's just weird 315 00:12:18,759 --> 00:12:15,980 it's just and so unabashedly like 316 00:12:21,100 --> 00:12:18,769 doesn't care just weird and they're 317 00:12:22,900 --> 00:12:21,110 doing he did this story called happy I 318 00:12:24,609 --> 00:12:22,910 feel like I'm rambling a little bit if I 319 00:12:26,980 --> 00:12:24,619 ever go once people get me start talking 320 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:26,990 about compostable there's no mosquitoes 321 00:12:30,220 --> 00:12:28,850 real quick yeah there's a book that he 322 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:30,230 wrote that's called happy it's for 323 00:12:35,769 --> 00:12:33,410 issues it is sin city meets Care Bears 324 00:12:38,290 --> 00:12:35,779 and I said meat it's a wonderful life 325 00:12:40,210 --> 00:12:38,300 it's about this hit man who on Christmas 326 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:40,220 Eve is visited by this little blue 327 00:12:44,199 --> 00:12:42,170 flying horse that is trying to get him 328 00:12:45,699 --> 00:12:44,209 to save this little girl it's fantastic 329 00:12:46,869 --> 00:12:45,709 it's only forest she's it's so good and 330 00:12:48,850 --> 00:12:46,879 they're doing a TV show of it with 331 00:12:51,249 --> 00:12:48,860 Christopher Meloni for Syfy oh my god 332 00:12:53,169 --> 00:12:51,259 yes for with one of the guys one of the 333 00:12:54,819 --> 00:12:53,179 crank directors being the director and 334 00:12:57,069 --> 00:12:54,829 executive producer that Neville diamond 335 00:12:58,720 --> 00:12:57,079 Terrell Taylor yeah yeah it's perfect 336 00:13:01,449 --> 00:12:58,730 comic books I can go all day 337 00:13:04,509 --> 00:13:01,459 I love Stephen King I'm a big steamin 338 00:13:08,590 --> 00:13:04,519 King there's something about a he is 339 00:13:10,809 --> 00:13:08,600 always for a man who seems like a pretty 340 00:13:12,790 --> 00:13:10,819 regular dude who lived like you know for 341 00:13:14,319 --> 00:13:12,800 all intents and purposes a regular life 342 00:13:15,639 --> 00:13:14,329 he was a school teacher and then just 343 00:13:16,809 --> 00:13:15,649 struck a big as an author and it's been 344 00:13:18,519 --> 00:13:16,819 running since end and was you know 345 00:13:23,590 --> 00:13:18,529 arguably one of the biggest pop culture 346 00:13:25,449 --> 00:13:23,600 authors in our time with and he yet he 347 00:13:26,889 --> 00:13:25,459 still is able to get these emotions for 348 00:13:28,389 --> 00:13:26,899 people that like I don't know if he's 349 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:28,399 ever met like a little chubby 350 00:13:31,389 --> 00:13:30,170 fourteen-year-old that lived in Maine or 351 00:13:34,090 --> 00:13:31,399 I don't know if he's ever met like a 352 00:13:37,210 --> 00:13:34,100 little boy who's in a giant hotel with 353 00:13:39,669 --> 00:13:37,220 his dad but it's you feel like he has he 354 00:13:40,749 --> 00:13:39,679 I feel like he had no exact he knows 355 00:13:42,249 --> 00:13:40,759 exactly what they're going through 356 00:13:44,970 --> 00:13:42,259 there's this emotion there's also this 357 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:44,980 crazy ability that he has which is - 358 00:13:49,389 --> 00:13:47,569 it's like a narrative stream of 359 00:13:51,429 --> 00:13:49,399 consciousness it's like this mix of 360 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:51,439 somebody will be talking it will be from 361 00:13:54,879 --> 00:13:52,730 somebody's point of view and then they 362 00:13:57,189 --> 00:13:54,889 will something will slip out in such 363 00:14:00,400 --> 00:13:57,199 this casual way that is such a deep 364 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:00,410 personal in like thought that the kind 365 00:14:04,090 --> 00:14:01,689 of things that we never say out loud 366 00:14:06,579 --> 00:14:04,100 right and it's just in there just 367 00:14:09,069 --> 00:14:06,589 naturally for every character and every 368 00:14:11,499 --> 00:14:09,079 time it is spot-on as to what this 369 00:14:14,079 --> 00:14:11,509 person is probably thinking um and I 370 00:14:17,049 --> 00:14:14,089 just envy that to no end well yeah he's 371 00:14:18,340 --> 00:14:17,059 able to just tap into that every I feel 372 00:14:20,470 --> 00:14:18,350 like the biggest note you can get as a 373 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:20,480 writer there at least one that I often 374 00:14:25,420 --> 00:14:24,410 get is that somebody will see one 375 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:25,430 character in 376 00:14:28,650 --> 00:14:26,690 something that I've written and like I 377 00:14:30,940 --> 00:14:28,660 feel like you like that character a lot 378 00:14:33,070 --> 00:14:30,950 you should put that love into the other 379 00:14:36,639 --> 00:14:33,080 characters that you have and sometimes 380 00:14:39,250 --> 00:14:36,649 it's you know even doing that will can 381 00:14:40,810 --> 00:14:39,260 only accomplish so much Stephen King 382 00:14:43,060 --> 00:14:40,820 loves every single character that he 383 00:14:46,449 --> 00:14:43,070 writes and it shows in the way that they 384 00:14:48,250 --> 00:14:46,459 are presented it's crazy yeah so yeah 385 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:48,260 those are definitely up there on my 386 00:14:52,810 --> 00:14:50,810 influences writing wise I'd say those 387 00:14:54,310 --> 00:14:52,820 are some really good children for sure 388 00:14:56,470 --> 00:14:54,320 well writing is though we spend 389 00:14:58,900 --> 00:14:56,480 something that you and I have related on 390 00:15:00,550 --> 00:14:58,910 and we had in common but you know there 391 00:15:02,650 --> 00:15:00,560 are things that set us apart 392 00:15:05,620 --> 00:15:02,660 we have comic books we have theatre we 393 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:05,630 have writing uh I have always been 394 00:15:11,230 --> 00:15:09,290 obsessed with UFOs even aliens this is 395 00:15:14,829 --> 00:15:11,240 apparent I have a podcast I read the 396 00:15:16,900 --> 00:15:14,839 book we could go on for days but we've 397 00:15:19,930 --> 00:15:16,910 never really sat down and had a 398 00:15:21,970 --> 00:15:19,940 discussion on this topic as friends and 399 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:21,980 colleagues so I kind of wanted to do 400 00:15:25,540 --> 00:15:22,730 that today 401 00:15:27,100 --> 00:15:25,550 so if you if you're up for it man 402 00:15:28,660 --> 00:15:27,110 let's do it I'll robot it I'm all about 403 00:15:31,750 --> 00:15:28,670 it I'll be excited about this because I 404 00:15:34,449 --> 00:15:31,760 said I am a I am a willing skeptic I 405 00:15:37,030 --> 00:15:34,459 would love to believe a lot of different 406 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:37,040 things like I was raised Catholic and no 407 00:15:40,500 --> 00:15:38,690 longer Catholic I would consider myself 408 00:15:42,850 --> 00:15:40,510 I would not 409 00:15:44,350 --> 00:15:42,860 agnostic and atheist and all these 410 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:44,360 different things like I think agnostic 411 00:15:48,490 --> 00:15:46,730 is the one where you I would be open to 412 00:15:49,660 --> 00:15:48,500 the idea of there being like some kind 413 00:15:51,310 --> 00:15:49,670 of how higher power is something 414 00:15:53,410 --> 00:15:51,320 different out there but there's just 415 00:15:57,430 --> 00:15:53,420 nothing for me that has proven that yet 416 00:15:58,750 --> 00:15:57,440 and the same could be said for UFOs and 417 00:16:01,090 --> 00:15:58,760 also another thing that we talk about 418 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:01,100 often which is the the paranormal 419 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:03,050 because there are certain things that I 420 00:16:07,180 --> 00:16:05,450 almost feel like and I feel like I might 421 00:16:09,579 --> 00:16:07,190 be if I'm jumping ahead please feel free 422 00:16:12,610 --> 00:16:09,589 to stop me but I am when it comes to 423 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:12,620 things like cryptozoology I don't 424 00:16:17,829 --> 00:16:16,130 consider to be crazy at all I I'd like I 425 00:16:19,630 --> 00:16:17,839 would believe a Bigfoot or a loch ness 426 00:16:22,569 --> 00:16:19,640 monster way before i would believe a 427 00:16:23,710 --> 00:16:22,579 possession or an abduction and that's 428 00:16:27,519 --> 00:16:23,720 just how I am 429 00:16:29,110 --> 00:16:27,529 yeah but it's I would want to and then 430 00:16:30,610 --> 00:16:29,120 there's things like with what happened 431 00:16:32,079 --> 00:16:30,620 with Jupiter I don't know when this will 432 00:16:33,670 --> 00:16:32,089 be coming out who knows things could 433 00:16:35,860 --> 00:16:33,680 have changed by then but we're finding 434 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:35,870 water and moons on the moons of Jupiter 435 00:16:38,829 --> 00:16:37,490 that could sustain life and stuff like 436 00:16:39,629 --> 00:16:38,839 that so hey you know what if that 437 00:16:42,730 --> 00:16:39,639 changed 438 00:16:45,910 --> 00:16:42,740 I'm out of here whatever that I lose I'm 439 00:16:48,340 --> 00:16:45,920 willing I am willing to believe but 440 00:16:50,949 --> 00:16:48,350 nothing has pushed me over that Plateau 441 00:16:54,129 --> 00:16:50,959 boy yet that's that's that's a good 442 00:16:55,689 --> 00:16:54,139 point the the idea of a more scientific 443 00:16:57,490 --> 00:16:55,699 approach to the you know the idea that 444 00:17:00,009 --> 00:16:57,500 there could be some sort of 445 00:17:02,889 --> 00:17:00,019 single-celled organism or a bacteria on 446 00:17:06,370 --> 00:17:02,899 the water autumn moon ok let's go from 447 00:17:07,689 --> 00:17:06,380 there that's an extremely scientific 448 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:07,699 approach to looking at the 449 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:10,970 extraterrestrial possibility but many 450 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:13,610 people here on earth believe that they 451 00:17:19,210 --> 00:17:16,970 they have either personally been visited 452 00:17:21,669 --> 00:17:19,220 like some sort of non-human intelligence 453 00:17:23,130 --> 00:17:21,679 or that whatever these UFOs are flying 454 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:23,140 around that they are in fact 455 00:17:28,750 --> 00:17:25,850 extraterrestrial so there is this huge 456 00:17:32,919 --> 00:17:28,760 dichotomy between the hardcore believers 457 00:17:34,930 --> 00:17:32,929 in the UFO phenomenon being et and those 458 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:34,940 who are willing to say no yeah there's 459 00:17:38,500 --> 00:17:37,010 got to be life out there mathematically 460 00:17:40,870 --> 00:17:38,510 it's it's a given 461 00:17:41,649 --> 00:17:40,880 so to tow that line I think is very 462 00:17:44,110 --> 00:17:41,659 important 463 00:17:46,510 --> 00:17:44,120 first of all remaining objective and to 464 00:17:48,430 --> 00:17:46,520 always have your eye on that scientific 465 00:17:52,330 --> 00:17:48,440 approach to it and what it comes down to 466 00:17:53,190 --> 00:17:52,340 me too without human beings love to feel 467 00:18:00,399 --> 00:17:53,200 special 468 00:18:03,580 --> 00:18:00,409 after God's image we are we are we have 469 00:18:06,130 --> 00:18:03,590 domain over the animals and the fish in 470 00:18:09,940 --> 00:18:06,140 the sea and we are we are the divine 471 00:18:12,370 --> 00:18:09,950 human being so of course alien life must 472 00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:12,380 be interested in picking up our least 473 00:18:16,810 --> 00:18:15,110 important people in the country and and 474 00:18:19,570 --> 00:18:16,820 studying them for several minutes 475 00:18:21,220 --> 00:18:19,580 I forget I feel like this was like a 476 00:18:23,020 --> 00:18:21,230 quote that was like used for a movie but 477 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:23,030 it's like an actual quote but it's just 478 00:18:28,690 --> 00:18:25,250 like the quote is is something along the 479 00:18:31,930 --> 00:18:28,700 lines of either there is no other life 480 00:18:33,460 --> 00:18:31,940 in the universe or they there is and 481 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:33,470 they want nothing to do with us either 482 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:36,890 one is equally terrifying yes my thing 483 00:18:44,380 --> 00:18:39,890 is it's like whoa why would we be 484 00:18:48,610 --> 00:18:44,390 abducted why on this backwards divided 485 00:18:52,539 --> 00:18:48,620 planet what would some other race who 486 00:18:53,049 --> 00:18:52,549 has the ability to travel the Stars want 487 00:18:57,430 --> 00:18:53,059 to do 488 00:18:59,139 --> 00:18:57,440 with us what it's a really much believed 489 00:19:00,549 --> 00:18:59,149 in life on other planets 490 00:19:03,070 --> 00:19:00,559 sooner than I would believe that they 491 00:19:06,580 --> 00:19:03,080 would give me [\h__\h] about what we're 492 00:19:08,799 --> 00:19:06,590 doing he yeah there's another I would be 493 00:19:10,899 --> 00:19:08,809 perfectly willing to accept the fact 494 00:19:13,269 --> 00:19:10,909 that there is of Court of course there's 495 00:19:15,190 --> 00:19:13,279 other life out there of course there has 496 00:19:16,779 --> 00:19:15,200 to be just metalic is that 497 00:19:19,180 --> 00:19:16,789 mathematically they're just absolutely 498 00:19:23,619 --> 00:19:19,190 has to be it could be nowhere near us 499 00:19:26,499 --> 00:19:23,629 what its outfit but it transcending time 500 00:19:27,909 --> 00:19:26,509 and space in a way that either you're 501 00:19:29,950 --> 00:19:27,919 either follow in the independence day 502 00:19:32,499 --> 00:19:29,960 model and it takes them 25 years each 503 00:19:34,659 --> 00:19:32,509 cycle to get to where we are or they are 504 00:19:36,879 --> 00:19:34,669 able to do it so quick that it takes 505 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:36,889 them like maybe a couple of hours or 506 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:38,690 even a year like to travel light-years 507 00:19:44,710 --> 00:19:40,730 in a year that's crazy 508 00:19:47,169 --> 00:19:44,720 so why like why us why wonder what what 509 00:19:51,909 --> 00:19:47,179 what it's a good question and you know 510 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:51,919 that's where the whole idea of this 511 00:19:57,700 --> 00:19:55,850 phenomenon and if they are here and they 512 00:20:00,070 --> 00:19:57,710 are quoting whether you know studying us 513 00:20:02,919 --> 00:20:00,080 why are we so important what makes us 514 00:20:07,210 --> 00:20:02,929 integral to them coming these vast 515 00:20:09,909 --> 00:20:07,220 distances breaking every rule of logic 516 00:20:12,850 --> 00:20:09,919 and physics that we feasibly know of on 517 00:20:17,590 --> 00:20:12,860 our planet to do that and many people 518 00:20:21,820 --> 00:20:17,600 believe that this entire idea of alien 519 00:20:26,230 --> 00:20:21,830 visitation is a anxiety it's it's it's a 520 00:20:29,739 --> 00:20:26,240 fear of another it's also an absence of 521 00:20:32,379 --> 00:20:29,749 belief in possibly a higher power a 522 00:20:34,149 --> 00:20:32,389 divinity this is now the replacement for 523 00:20:38,019 --> 00:20:34,159 Tibet when people have lost all hope in 524 00:20:39,489 --> 00:20:38,029 God in their life a lot of people will 525 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:39,499 search for something else 526 00:20:43,060 --> 00:20:40,850 and there are many you know 527 00:20:45,369 --> 00:20:43,070 psychoanalysts have really looked into 528 00:20:47,350 --> 00:20:45,379 this and they believe that the whole 529 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:47,360 flying saucer phenomenon came around 530 00:20:52,930 --> 00:20:50,570 back in the 50s or the late excuse-me 531 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:52,940 really early to late forties okay you're 532 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:55,129 looking at post-world War two everyone 533 00:21:01,090 --> 00:20:58,129 has these post-war anxieties and what 534 00:21:03,159 --> 00:21:01,100 comes next you know all this evil we 535 00:21:04,629 --> 00:21:03,169 just saw throughout the world may have 536 00:21:06,530 --> 00:21:04,639 been vanquished but when will it come 537 00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:06,540 again so then this 538 00:21:10,790 --> 00:21:08,640 manifests and manifests in two different 539 00:21:13,550 --> 00:21:10,800 things who's going to be the next enemy 540 00:21:17,180 --> 00:21:13,560 yeah area of the other comes about and 541 00:21:21,370 --> 00:21:17,190 it's such an evil such an evil that is 542 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:21,380 almost cartoonish it all Hitler did look 543 00:21:26,540 --> 00:21:24,210 committed abominations atrocities like 544 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:26,550 things that were maybe you like seen and 545 00:21:31,060 --> 00:21:29,010 done before but on that grander scale 546 00:21:33,890 --> 00:21:31,070 and with that kind of confidence you 547 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:33,900 could argue that the only way to be able 548 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:35,730 to deal with something like that 549 00:21:41,690 --> 00:21:38,850 actually happen is to believe in 550 00:21:43,250 --> 00:21:41,700 something even worse to believe that 551 00:21:45,050 --> 00:21:43,260 something could be happened because that 552 00:21:47,090 --> 00:21:45,060 the Holocaust was out of people's 553 00:21:49,190 --> 00:21:47,100 control your only it was one of the 554 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:49,200 first times where we get to see these 555 00:21:54,290 --> 00:21:52,050 horrible things happening and we over 556 00:21:56,900 --> 00:21:54,300 here and we are all the way over here 557 00:21:59,090 --> 00:21:56,910 with very little recourse we eventually 558 00:22:00,770 --> 00:21:59,100 went in and helped and that but it took 559 00:22:03,950 --> 00:22:00,780 like a military movement people went to 560 00:22:06,110 --> 00:22:03,960 war people died to stop this evil it was 561 00:22:07,730 --> 00:22:06,120 a clear-cut these are the bad guys we 562 00:22:10,850 --> 00:22:07,740 are the good guys because they are 563 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:10,860 murdering innocence that is a that 564 00:22:16,670 --> 00:22:14,250 messes with your head that can shift 565 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:16,680 around that your beliefs what you know 566 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:18,210 what you think you know what you don't 567 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:20,850 know like everything changes so the idea 568 00:22:27,140 --> 00:22:23,490 that they could be so warped that they 569 00:22:28,940 --> 00:22:27,150 have to believe like no I can't even 570 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:28,950 deal with what is on this planet right 571 00:22:33,950 --> 00:22:32,250 now this was something else yeah this 572 00:22:36,110 --> 00:22:33,960 was from somewhere else this is some 573 00:22:37,340 --> 00:22:36,120 other and this is writer so this around 574 00:22:39,110 --> 00:22:37,350 the forty or fifty or forties and 575 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:39,120 fifties of the the flying cops are still 576 00:22:43,190 --> 00:22:40,610 started right during the Red Scare 577 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:43,200 absolutely yeah yeah you know then like 578 00:22:48,650 --> 00:22:46,770 the whole idea of an invasion yes or yes 579 00:22:50,090 --> 00:22:48,660 yeah because isn't that pretty much what 580 00:22:52,370 --> 00:22:50,100 invasion of the body snatchers as a 581 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:52,380 metaphor for us all the kinda nism yeah 582 00:22:58,660 --> 00:22:54,930 if any of the early be sci-fi movies as 583 00:23:03,110 --> 00:22:58,670 they come we're a direct commentary on 584 00:23:06,350 --> 00:23:03,120 communism and the scare of not only the 585 00:23:08,260 --> 00:23:06,360 Red Scare but the idea of these weapons 586 00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:08,270 being built that were so touched 587 00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:10,320 technologically as to what we knew 588 00:23:14,450 --> 00:23:12,000 before then they could wipe out the 589 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:14,460 entire planet right yeah yes absolutely 590 00:23:18,980 --> 00:23:17,490 and your to now yes and that is where 591 00:23:19,710 --> 00:23:18,990 things get concerning that's when I 592 00:23:23,220 --> 00:23:19,720 start to under 593 00:23:25,590 --> 00:23:23,230 stand why they would want something to 594 00:23:27,330 --> 00:23:25,600 do with us because we are capable of 595 00:23:30,539 --> 00:23:27,340 that kind of destruction but even then 596 00:23:32,190 --> 00:23:30,549 it's Flik let them destroy themselves 597 00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:32,200 and we'll come in and pick the pick up 598 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:33,760 the pieces I think if we're ever to be 599 00:23:39,299 --> 00:23:35,530 visited by alien life we will be the 600 00:23:42,810 --> 00:23:39,309 milonga many people are risk we act 601 00:23:45,090 --> 00:23:42,820 we're a risk if I see the Earth Stood 602 00:23:48,210 --> 00:23:45,100 Still Bofors and we do not handle that 603 00:23:51,390 --> 00:23:48,220 very well that is a good point I mean a 604 00:23:54,060 --> 00:23:51,400 lot of people believe that the the first 605 00:23:56,190 --> 00:23:54,070 time you know it is putting aside the 606 00:23:58,140 --> 00:23:56,200 entire idea of ancient arrival man 607 00:24:01,470 --> 00:23:58,150 arrival I think nailed it beautifully 608 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:01,480 this idea that our first atomic bomb 609 00:24:06,570 --> 00:24:03,850 when it was detonated was literally a 610 00:24:08,909 --> 00:24:06,580 beacon to any life out there and look at 611 00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:08,919 what that little thing on the distance 612 00:24:12,330 --> 00:24:10,750 that we never bothered to even look at 613 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:12,340 look at what they just did yeah 614 00:24:17,970 --> 00:24:14,890 blatantly that thing could be seen from 615 00:24:20,010 --> 00:24:17,980 space and then 72 years later we're like 616 00:24:22,380 --> 00:24:20,020 let's fire up the tesseract to boom 617 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:22,390 there beacon just that's calling up it 618 00:24:27,570 --> 00:24:24,730 was like oh there's a girl outside yeah 619 00:24:31,049 --> 00:24:27,580 now Akari once again he slips into comic 620 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:31,059 books I have to apologize but well let's 621 00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:32,650 let's talk about that 622 00:24:38,220 --> 00:24:36,130 that idea of invasion of another there's 623 00:24:40,110 --> 00:24:38,230 something we've recently been yeah that 624 00:24:41,610 --> 00:24:40,120 you you personally found adventurous 625 00:24:42,630 --> 00:24:41,620 thing really excited me because it's 626 00:24:45,060 --> 00:24:42,640 something I haven't thought about in a 627 00:24:46,799 --> 00:24:45,070 while or the world's man yeah the radio 628 00:24:49,020 --> 00:24:46,809 program got just the book not the 629 00:24:51,419 --> 00:24:49,030 classic piece of literature right but a 630 00:24:54,770 --> 00:24:51,429 radio presentation directed by and 631 00:24:56,850 --> 00:24:54,780 starring won Orson Welles the 632 00:24:59,010 --> 00:24:56,860 Broadcasting System and its affiliated 633 00:25:01,590 --> 00:24:59,020 stations resent Orson Welles and the 634 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:01,600 Mercury Theatre on the air in the war of 635 00:25:06,570 --> 00:25:04,450 the worlds by HD well we know now that 636 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:06,580 in the early years of the 20th century 637 00:25:13,260 --> 00:25:09,490 this world was being watched closely by 638 00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:13,270 intelligences greater than man's and yet 639 00:25:19,169 --> 00:25:17,110 as mortal as his own we know now that as 640 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:19,179 human beings visit themselves about 641 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:22,210 their various concerns with infinite 642 00:25:27,299 --> 00:25:24,490 complacency people went to and probe the 643 00:25:29,190 --> 00:25:27,309 earth about their little Affairs serene 644 00:25:32,159 --> 00:25:29,200 and the assurance of their dominion over 645 00:25:33,010 --> 00:25:32,169 this small spinning fragment of solar 646 00:25:36,460 --> 00:25:33,020 driftwood 647 00:25:38,350 --> 00:25:36,470 which by chance or design man has 648 00:25:39,660 --> 00:25:38,360 inherited out of the dark mystery of 649 00:25:42,310 --> 00:25:39,670 time and space 650 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:42,320 yeah who was a radio broadcast of war 651 00:25:47,850 --> 00:25:44,450 the world that the first I think that 652 00:25:51,610 --> 00:25:47,860 first two segments were done like actual 653 00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:51,620 news bolt yes of an alien or James just 654 00:25:57,669 --> 00:25:55,520 me it was it was so well done as we'll 655 00:25:59,740 --> 00:25:57,679 get into that it very well could have 656 00:26:01,690 --> 00:25:59,750 been happening yeah and if it freaked 657 00:26:04,090 --> 00:26:01,700 it's debatable about how many people had 658 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:04,100 freaked out and I love I think there was 659 00:26:07,210 --> 00:26:06,050 a maybe you had cuz everybody said you 660 00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:07,220 pulled some quotes but there's some 661 00:26:11,919 --> 00:26:08,960 horse and well set or know there's 662 00:26:13,780 --> 00:26:11,929 something HG Wells said uh at one point 663 00:26:15,669 --> 00:26:13,790 him and Orson Welles finally sit down to 664 00:26:17,890 --> 00:26:15,679 talk about it years after it happened 665 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:17,900 happens when my Massachusetts come out 666 00:26:23,530 --> 00:26:21,530 um and he says something along the lines 667 00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:23,540 of you know like it's just like when 668 00:26:27,790 --> 00:26:25,760 somebody sees a ghost they're still like 669 00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:27,800 you see there is you see a person in the 670 00:26:31,390 --> 00:26:29,510 sheet and you know it's a person in the 671 00:26:33,250 --> 00:26:31,400 sheet but you still like you know you 672 00:26:34,810 --> 00:26:33,260 act scared and you run away yeah but 673 00:26:36,730 --> 00:26:34,820 that it's like that's what was the 674 00:26:38,950 --> 00:26:36,740 reaction to people here in more of the 675 00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:38,960 world when they get on a plane or 676 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:42,110 something happening I'm sure this rising 677 00:26:46,610 --> 00:26:44,690 out of the pit and they got a small beam 678 00:26:48,410 --> 00:26:46,620 of light against the mirror 679 00:26:51,180 --> 00:26:48,420 [Music] 680 00:26:54,410 --> 00:26:51,190 he said the plain string as an amenity 681 00:26:57,420 --> 00:26:54,420 flutterby bashing men slicing head on 682 00:26:59,910 --> 00:26:57,430 Lord to tell you the place if you 683 00:27:00,450 --> 00:26:59,920 spotted by the woods of private stash 684 00:27:02,070 --> 00:27:00,460 pegs 685 00:27:04,140 --> 00:27:02,080 thanks to the automobile spreading 686 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:04,150 everywhere coming this way doubt car 20 687 00:27:08,610 --> 00:27:05,890 our enemy is now in sight above the 688 00:27:11,130 --> 00:27:08,620 Palisades five people in the street see 689 00:27:13,770 --> 00:27:11,140 it now they're running toward the East 690 00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:13,780 River thousands of them dropping in like 691 00:27:20,460 --> 00:27:16,720 rats now the smoke spreading faster it 692 00:27:22,580 --> 00:27:20,470 leaps Times Square people are trying to 693 00:27:26,730 --> 00:27:22,590 run away from it but it's no you think 694 00:27:28,700 --> 00:27:26,740 they're falling like flies yeah they 695 00:27:30,990 --> 00:27:28,710 knew but they still like it's part of a 696 00:27:33,150 --> 00:27:31,000 Halloween it's part of like as it would 697 00:27:35,190 --> 00:27:33,160 like it part of the fun right this was 698 00:27:37,410 --> 00:27:35,200 Broadway Halloween is yeah you know if 699 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:37,420 not many people knew that um but yeah 700 00:27:43,620 --> 00:27:40,450 this idea that there was like a third of 701 00:27:46,290 --> 00:27:43,630 the listenership who genuinely and this 702 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:46,300 was an alien invasion happening the rest 703 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:48,250 of the people who were tuning in 704 00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:50,290 sporadically throughout the the 705 00:27:55,470 --> 00:27:53,110 broadcasts they thought it was either 706 00:27:58,970 --> 00:27:55,480 some sort of natural catastrophe 707 00:28:02,610 --> 00:27:58,980 happening or the Germans so I mean again 708 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:02,620 you know I love to then even I don't 709 00:28:05,850 --> 00:28:04,210 even think the attack on Pearl Harbor it 710 00:28:07,740 --> 00:28:05,860 happened yet in this broadcast it 711 00:28:09,210 --> 00:28:07,750 happened because right oh we know it 712 00:28:11,460 --> 00:28:09,220 couldn't have because this broadcast was 713 00:28:14,010 --> 00:28:11,470 like 1936 or so Hitler was actually 714 00:28:15,810 --> 00:28:14,020 still empowered right yes yes yes no I'm 715 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:15,820 thinking of the when they sat down later 716 00:28:19,950 --> 00:28:17,890 on they were discussing very 717 00:28:21,390 --> 00:28:19,960 specifically because HG Wells brings up 718 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:21,400 the fact that Britain and France were 719 00:28:24,780 --> 00:28:23,170 actively fighting in World War two when 720 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:24,790 those two men sat down and we had not 721 00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:27,130 yet joined the conflict right so it's 722 00:28:32,130 --> 00:28:30,310 very much like oh yeah war is is you 723 00:28:33,140 --> 00:28:32,140 know war is just some spectacle until 724 00:28:36,300 --> 00:28:33,150 it's at your doorstep 725 00:28:38,580 --> 00:28:36,310 exactly that's a good point I know HG 726 00:28:41,310 --> 00:28:38,590 Wells he act when they did meet up he 727 00:28:44,250 --> 00:28:41,320 said you aren't quite serious in America 728 00:28:46,230 --> 00:28:44,260 yet right the exact quote you haven't 729 00:28:48,270 --> 00:28:46,240 got the war right under your chains and 730 00:28:50,610 --> 00:28:48,280 the consequence is you can still play 731 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:50,620 with ideas of terror and conflict it's a 732 00:28:55,260 --> 00:28:52,570 natural thing to do until you're right 733 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:55,270 up against it yeah you hit it on the 734 00:28:58,730 --> 00:28:57,490 head and a fun little dead people who 735 00:29:00,140 --> 00:28:58,740 really understood that 736 00:29:02,330 --> 00:29:00,150 fun little side note as the writers of 737 00:29:04,190 --> 00:29:02,340 Superman at the time because if if 738 00:29:06,140 --> 00:29:04,200 Superman ever punches a Nazi I think 739 00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:06,150 it's maybe in like one cover of some 740 00:29:09,020 --> 00:29:07,440 issue or maybe it was just on the cover 741 00:29:11,630 --> 00:29:09,030 is never a story because they were just 742 00:29:13,460 --> 00:29:11,640 like it's incentive to have this guy go 743 00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:13,470 you sent Superman over to Germany World 744 00:29:17,660 --> 00:29:16,110 War two is over in ten minutes but then 745 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:17,670 it's still there the next day when you 746 00:29:22,130 --> 00:29:20,610 wake up yeah so it's it's true like 747 00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:22,140 we're not always America is not always 748 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:23,760 the best with that stuff until it's 749 00:29:26,810 --> 00:29:25,170 happening to us and then we're like now 750 00:29:29,330 --> 00:29:26,820 wait a minute yes this is not to joke 751 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:29,340 about this is a serious thing that we 752 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:32,130 were joking about last year well I mean 753 00:29:35,930 --> 00:29:32,970 let's 754 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:35,940 you know the broadcast aside it was 755 00:29:40,130 --> 00:29:38,370 interesting in you know there is a lot 756 00:29:42,290 --> 00:29:40,140 of controversy on you know did people 757 00:29:44,540 --> 00:29:42,300 people actually like leave their homes 758 00:29:45,799 --> 00:29:44,550 did people actually commit suicide 759 00:29:47,570 --> 00:29:45,809 thinking this is the end of the world 760 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:47,580 that's all up for debate you know 761 00:29:51,470 --> 00:29:49,170 there's been no irrefutable evidence 762 00:29:53,450 --> 00:29:51,480 that these things happen apparently it 763 00:29:55,790 --> 00:29:53,460 was greatly exaggerated but people did 764 00:29:57,890 --> 00:29:55,800 yeah panic a lot of people called C bail 765 00:29:59,480 --> 00:29:57,900 like the phone lines of CBS were ringing 766 00:30:01,220 --> 00:29:59,490 off the hook he's like that's that is 767 00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:01,230 proof enough in itself and this is a 768 00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:03,360 time when it's not like somebody was 769 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:05,520 like change the channel it's like if you 770 00:30:09,740 --> 00:30:07,530 change the check yeah three other radio 771 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:09,750 stations to let me fix it this one and 772 00:30:15,500 --> 00:30:11,490 you can listen a little Orphan Annie 773 00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:15,510 thank you bullet and you know even Orson 774 00:30:18,260 --> 00:30:15,840 Welles 775 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:18,270 he admitted like we do these kind of 776 00:30:23,150 --> 00:30:19,890 shows all the time why is this going on 777 00:30:25,610 --> 00:30:23,160 everyone's now he said the technique I 778 00:30:28,580 --> 00:30:25,620 used was not original it was not even 779 00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:28,590 new I anticipated nothing unusual so 780 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:30,240 then people asked you know do you think 781 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:32,130 you should have toned it down a little 782 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:34,170 bit you know the language the brutality 783 00:30:38,810 --> 00:30:36,450 going on in this alien invasion and he 784 00:30:41,030 --> 00:30:38,820 said no you don't play murder in soft 785 00:30:45,049 --> 00:30:41,040 words which is always a beautiful ah 786 00:30:47,810 --> 00:30:45,059 he's the first is the everybody at home 787 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:47,820 if you know who Orson Welles is if you 788 00:30:51,890 --> 00:30:49,170 don't know who are us and Welles is 789 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:51,900 going YouTube right now and type in 790 00:30:59,780 --> 00:30:56,250 Orson Welles drunk and watch him do a a 791 00:31:03,460 --> 00:30:59,790 commercial for champagne and the late 792 00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:03,470 70s all my song champagne and he is 793 00:31:08,900 --> 00:31:06,809 wasted oh my god it's only like a minute 794 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:08,910 and 30 seconds we'll watch it afterwards 795 00:31:14,810 --> 00:31:11,250 okay one of the funniest things of a 796 00:31:16,550 --> 00:31:14,820 heard my entire life oh god I'm just out 797 00:31:18,140 --> 00:31:16,560 of it and this is a man classically 798 00:31:18,770 --> 00:31:18,150 trained act one of the best actors that 799 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:18,780 ever lived 800 00:31:22,820 --> 00:31:20,250 created what a lot of people consider 801 00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:22,830 one of you the best to be at least even 802 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:24,480 if people will say like oh well it's not 803 00:31:28,370 --> 00:31:26,490 the best film anymore it changed citizen 804 00:31:30,530 --> 00:31:28,380 game changed in the way movies are made 805 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:30,540 just like Avatar yes 806 00:31:35,150 --> 00:31:32,490 I just put Citizen Kane and Avatar in 807 00:31:37,460 --> 00:31:35,160 the same cooler line hey you know what 808 00:31:37,910 --> 00:31:37,470 that's is that guys I love I love her 809 00:31:40,820 --> 00:31:37,920 locker 810 00:31:43,820 --> 00:31:40,830 avatar changed the way movies are made 811 00:31:45,710 --> 00:31:43,830 we do CG differently now we have those 812 00:31:47,570 --> 00:31:45,720 awesome Planet of the Apes movies now 813 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:47,580 because of avatar that's a good point 814 00:31:53,660 --> 00:31:50,130 yeah but yeah where the world is 815 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:53,670 something where it's what I want one of 816 00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:54,930 the reasons I wanted to bring it up is 817 00:32:01,220 --> 00:31:58,250 because at the time all it took was 818 00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:01,230 there being one outlet for how people 819 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:03,440 received entertainment at home and 820 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:06,090 something that was not necessarily new 821 00:32:11,660 --> 00:32:07,650 but people are still getting used to a 822 00:32:13,460 --> 00:32:11,670 little bit hey something like the a war 823 00:32:15,770 --> 00:32:13,470 of the words whereas the world's scare 824 00:32:17,510 --> 00:32:15,780 could happen now just as easily all it 825 00:32:18,980 --> 00:32:17,520 takes is one Facebook story to start 826 00:32:21,020 --> 00:32:18,990 trending for some reason because some 827 00:32:22,730 --> 00:32:21,030 jerk thinks that it would be funny to 828 00:32:24,650 --> 00:32:22,740 throw different sources behind this and 829 00:32:26,030 --> 00:32:24,660 different people just not reading and 830 00:32:27,860 --> 00:32:26,040 just clicking and blindly being 831 00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:27,870 susceptible to whatever is thrown in 832 00:32:32,060 --> 00:32:29,310 front of them and it could happen just 833 00:32:34,310 --> 00:32:32,070 going yeah because people don't do 834 00:32:37,460 --> 00:32:34,320 research because there are things that 835 00:32:40,460 --> 00:32:37,470 are happening now that are way more 836 00:32:42,590 --> 00:32:40,470 important than something that if there 837 00:32:44,450 --> 00:32:42,600 was an alien invasion we'd know or at 838 00:32:46,370 --> 00:32:44,460 least if there was a large-scale what 839 00:32:48,830 --> 00:32:46,380 happens in more of the world so the 840 00:32:50,270 --> 00:32:48,840 giant ships coming down but somebody 841 00:32:53,090 --> 00:32:50,280 would see something like there are these 842 00:32:56,030 --> 00:32:53,100 are mono ships there are things like 843 00:32:58,310 --> 00:32:56,040 that that you wouldn't necessarily see 844 00:33:00,230 --> 00:32:58,320 but that you still shouldn't just 845 00:33:02,390 --> 00:33:00,240 believe just on face value that people 846 00:33:04,250 --> 00:33:02,400 do know research into and that's that's 847 00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:04,260 and no matter what political line you 848 00:33:08,660 --> 00:33:06,000 follow there are people that just don't 849 00:33:10,430 --> 00:33:08,670 do the research yet another reason why I 850 00:33:12,260 --> 00:33:10,440 don't think we'd be visited by aliens 851 00:33:14,690 --> 00:33:12,270 anytime soon and another reason why I 852 00:33:18,740 --> 00:33:14,700 think that something like the War of the 853 00:33:21,740 --> 00:33:18,750 Worlds Fiasco could happen now let me 854 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:21,750 ask you this when you have the US 855 00:33:27,330 --> 00:33:24,250 government who back 856 00:33:30,210 --> 00:33:27,340 the 50s were officially investigating 857 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:30,220 the UFO phenomenon sending people out to 858 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:32,770 meet these people write up reports on 859 00:33:37,620 --> 00:33:35,650 what they'd seen finding any scant 860 00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:37,630 evidence that they could of what these 861 00:33:42,870 --> 00:33:40,720 things were and then I will tell you 862 00:33:45,290 --> 00:33:42,880 this coming to the conclusion that the 863 00:33:48,750 --> 00:33:45,300 most likely scenario is that it was 864 00:33:52,260 --> 00:33:48,760 alien that whatever was going on was 865 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:52,270 extraterrestrial this was their official 866 00:33:58,470 --> 00:33:56,170 stance on it it was then stepped down by 867 00:34:00,180 --> 00:33:58,480 another committee who said no which we 868 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:00,190 can't put that out to the public they'll 869 00:34:03,780 --> 00:34:01,810 be mass hysteria 870 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:03,790 we can't say that things are visiting 871 00:34:08,399 --> 00:34:06,210 this planet what do you make of actual 872 00:34:11,250 --> 00:34:08,409 historical documentation that the 873 00:34:13,950 --> 00:34:11,260 government once said that this is most 874 00:34:17,310 --> 00:34:13,960 likely extraterrestrial I value 875 00:34:18,750 --> 00:34:17,320 information and I value education and 876 00:34:21,629 --> 00:34:18,760 people who are educated and smart and 877 00:34:23,310 --> 00:34:21,639 there is there are times when our 878 00:34:24,899 --> 00:34:23,320 government is very much run by smart 879 00:34:26,580 --> 00:34:24,909 intelligent people there are also times 880 00:34:29,190 --> 00:34:26,590 when our government was doing things 881 00:34:31,379 --> 00:34:29,200 like how long marijuana because black 882 00:34:34,860 --> 00:34:31,389 people made black people violent and 883 00:34:36,270 --> 00:34:34,870 outlying making it like saying that a 884 00:34:38,730 --> 00:34:36,280 white person couldn't get married to a 885 00:34:42,540 --> 00:34:38,740 black person because I was loving that 886 00:34:44,070 --> 00:34:42,550 case like I if it was 50 years ago my 887 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:44,080 mother and father could not have gotten 888 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:46,690 married right 50 years that's it that's 889 00:34:49,980 --> 00:34:48,490 right around the same time that this 890 00:34:51,690 --> 00:34:49,990 committee of people went out and 891 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:51,700 interviewed a bunch of people in Roswell 892 00:34:54,690 --> 00:34:52,810 and went like well if they're saying 893 00:34:56,369 --> 00:34:54,700 it's aliens it's probably aliens by the 894 00:34:57,810 --> 00:34:56,379 way keep that black person away from my 895 00:35:01,080 --> 00:34:57,820 water fountain I don't want any germs 896 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:01,090 like it's is that that's where it starts 897 00:35:05,610 --> 00:35:03,370 to get tough with me as I especially at 898 00:35:07,170 --> 00:35:05,620 the time I would be more apt to believe 899 00:35:10,410 --> 00:35:07,180 something like that now because I 900 00:35:13,380 --> 00:35:10,420 believe that our science is advanced in 901 00:35:15,150 --> 00:35:13,390 such a way that I would probably be like 902 00:35:17,130 --> 00:35:15,160 I believe there's more of a way to prove 903 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:17,140 that this was at a time when they were 904 00:35:22,050 --> 00:35:20,050 g-men it was all dudes in suits who went 905 00:35:23,820 --> 00:35:22,060 to church every Sunday who were going 906 00:35:25,470 --> 00:35:23,830 while that honestly puts a little bit 907 00:35:27,540 --> 00:35:25,480 more in the favor of if they thought 908 00:35:29,070 --> 00:35:27,550 they saw something that it must be true 909 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:29,080 because they weren't just going to 910 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:30,730 believe anything willy nilly there's 911 00:35:33,930 --> 00:35:32,410 also an aspect of religion that does 912 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:33,940 make people believe stuff really willy 913 00:35:38,140 --> 00:35:37,570 nilly so it's I am a I would call myself 914 00:37:16,390 --> 00:35:38,150 a 915 00:37:21,250 --> 00:37:16,400 debunked uh 916 00:37:23,049 --> 00:37:21,260 but what is the weather balloon oh you 917 00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:23,059 know all my research especially in 918 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:25,609 Toronto I said no no wait I think 919 00:37:29,829 --> 00:37:27,410 there's definitely a weather balloon 920 00:37:31,839 --> 00:37:29,839 episode of Simpsons okay you're coming 921 00:37:33,819 --> 00:37:31,849 down so I have at least I have some 922 00:37:37,180 --> 00:37:33,829 tacit understanding I'm glad your 923 00:37:39,609 --> 00:37:37,190 education comes from Oh lovable Oh buddy 924 00:37:41,470 --> 00:37:39,619 I put deodorant on my undercarriage 925 00:37:45,279 --> 00:37:41,480 because of the semester I didn't realize 926 00:37:46,990 --> 00:37:45,289 that for like seven years well you know 927 00:37:49,809 --> 00:37:47,000 the Simpsons get it right every time 928 00:37:51,390 --> 00:37:49,819 reflects be honest a wonderful x-files 929 00:37:54,430 --> 00:37:51,400 episode and 930 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:54,440 but back to Roswell a lot of people 931 00:37:59,290 --> 00:37:56,570 believe that a lot of these things were 932 00:38:02,190 --> 00:37:59,300 top-secret projects maybe what crash in 933 00:38:06,010 --> 00:38:02,200 Roswell was a spy satellite from a 934 00:38:09,060 --> 00:38:06,020 neighboring enemy country so if people 935 00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:09,070 are out there believing this was a UFO 936 00:38:15,250 --> 00:38:12,800 learn of extraterrestrial origin they're 937 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:15,260 not going to be thinking oh my god a spy 938 00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:19,370 satellite from the Soviet Union crashed 939 00:38:24,460 --> 00:38:22,310 here it made it here oh my god we're 940 00:38:25,810 --> 00:38:24,470 going to be invaded by them no let's let 941 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:25,820 them think it's little green men in 942 00:38:31,710 --> 00:38:28,970 space you know so it really is a big 943 00:38:34,060 --> 00:38:31,720 mixed bag of disinformation and 944 00:38:36,490 --> 00:38:34,070 persuading the public to believe one 945 00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:36,500 thing over another whether or not you 946 00:38:40,930 --> 00:38:38,720 believe you believe that we landed on 947 00:38:42,490 --> 00:38:40,940 the moon I do think that there's way 948 00:38:45,090 --> 00:38:42,500 more to support the fact that we did 949 00:38:47,620 --> 00:38:45,100 that there that there is I think that 950 00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:47,630 that didn't just happen overnight there 951 00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:50,000 was a space race don't get me wrong but 952 00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:51,440 there was a period of time where that 953 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:52,730 was something that we were actively 954 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:55,850 pursuing and it is arguable that in the 955 00:38:59,470 --> 00:38:57,650 late 40s we could have been trying some 956 00:39:01,990 --> 00:38:59,480 things that probably would have freaked 957 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:02,000 people out with and we're also trying to 958 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:03,890 send people into space and it's 959 00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:05,290 something like that that could have just 960 00:39:09,670 --> 00:39:07,730 spread all the business all over the 961 00:39:11,290 --> 00:39:09,680 side of the hill and you know it's that 962 00:39:14,410 --> 00:39:11,300 not working which is why it took a whole 963 00:39:17,710 --> 00:39:14,420 twenty another 20 years to get a manned 964 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:17,720 rocket that we shot into the sky like 965 00:39:21,970 --> 00:39:19,970 that didn't just happen 966 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:21,980 yeah so it's definitely something where 967 00:39:27,370 --> 00:39:24,650 I yeah I would just believe I would 968 00:39:30,010 --> 00:39:27,380 believe human error quicker than I would 969 00:39:31,630 --> 00:39:30,020 believe any kind of intervention you 970 00:39:37,150 --> 00:39:31,640 know outside intervention because it's 971 00:39:40,330 --> 00:39:37,160 just so it just seems so like bland or 972 00:39:44,350 --> 00:39:40,340 blase or unimportant like what are the 973 00:39:46,660 --> 00:39:44,360 things that from what it's not like like 974 00:39:48,730 --> 00:39:46,670 skies skyscraper has disappeared or like 975 00:39:51,730 --> 00:39:48,740 an entire town has disappeared or like 976 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:51,740 it's always one person who was stolen in 977 00:39:56,410 --> 00:39:53,210 the middle of the night and then brought 978 00:39:57,970 --> 00:39:56,420 back why like that's what I always come 979 00:40:00,760 --> 00:39:57,980 down to what's the why when the Y 980 00:40:03,670 --> 00:40:00,770 becomes more obvious then I'll even 981 00:40:04,660 --> 00:40:03,680 start to entertain some more ideas but 982 00:40:08,410 --> 00:40:04,670 I've yet to get a 983 00:40:10,930 --> 00:40:08,420 good why I can completely understand 984 00:40:13,660 --> 00:40:10,940 that I have interviewed hundreds of 985 00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:13,670 people absolutely everything from seeing 986 00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:16,730 a small blip in the sky that was 987 00:40:21,359 --> 00:40:19,040 probably a star was probably Venus and 988 00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:21,369 it's probably a drone at this point in 989 00:40:27,010 --> 00:40:25,280 2017 or they claim to have been abducted 990 00:40:31,359 --> 00:40:27,020 by aliens 991 00:40:32,859 --> 00:40:31,369 now that spectrum is huge I am between 992 00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:32,869 seeing a light in the sky and saying you 993 00:40:39,339 --> 00:40:35,569 were taken by a man as a researcher 994 00:40:41,230 --> 00:40:39,349 however my job is not to judge the 995 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:41,240 person short by the story of course not 996 00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:43,970 it's to hear the story out and relay 997 00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:46,730 that in the most objective way I can 998 00:40:54,130 --> 00:40:50,089 keeping the possibility open now I'm not 999 00:40:56,500 --> 00:40:54,140 out to instigate this and say oh it's a 1000 00:40:58,839 --> 00:40:56,510 Venusian from this planet would blonde 1001 00:41:01,569 --> 00:40:58,849 flowing hair they're here to give you 1002 00:41:04,420 --> 00:41:01,579 the cure for cancer or to bring you to 1003 00:41:07,770 --> 00:41:04,430 their planet to plant your human seed 1004 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:07,780 you know this these are the things that 1005 00:41:16,539 --> 00:41:12,890 I can it I can wholeheartedly admit are 1006 00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:16,549 too far out there in the possibility of 1007 00:41:22,930 --> 00:41:19,760 people being visited by something and 1008 00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:22,940 being taken I'm open to that being 1009 00:41:28,150 --> 00:41:26,000 possible whether or not it's a physical 1010 00:41:30,490 --> 00:41:28,160 phenomenon is a completely separate 1011 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:30,500 feature could this be happening in their 1012 00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:32,690 mind yes I do believe so and I don't 1013 00:41:38,319 --> 00:41:34,960 mean in the terms of being delusional or 1014 00:41:40,839 --> 00:41:38,329 making it up but a lot of these people 1015 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:40,849 firmly believe these things have 1016 00:41:47,530 --> 00:41:43,490 happened to them as vivid as the memory 1017 00:41:49,049 --> 00:41:47,540 might be or the the memories regressed 1018 00:41:51,819 --> 00:41:49,059 through some sort of hypnotherapy 1019 00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:51,829 they're astounding and they're happening 1020 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:53,599 all over the world and you have to think 1021 00:41:59,230 --> 00:41:56,450 about when the abduction phenomenon came 1022 00:42:02,589 --> 00:41:59,240 into like its prominence this was back 1023 00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:02,599 in the late 70s early 80s maybe and 1024 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:04,400 there were many cases before that as 1025 00:42:09,730 --> 00:42:07,130 well before the internet so you have to 1026 00:42:11,770 --> 00:42:09,740 wonder how these strikingly similar 1027 00:42:15,819 --> 00:42:11,780 stories were happening all over the 1028 00:42:16,700 --> 00:42:15,829 world from Australia to Japan to here in 1029 00:42:19,180 --> 00:42:16,710 the United States 1030 00:42:21,829 --> 00:42:19,190 Canada and these people have never met 1031 00:42:24,829 --> 00:42:21,839 entertainment at this point was not 1032 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:24,839 feeding them these stories right a lot 1033 00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:26,970 of Hollywood were getting their subject 1034 00:42:31,370 --> 00:42:29,520 material from these people from case 1035 00:42:33,140 --> 00:42:31,380 reports from project Bluebook this 1036 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:33,150 project I told you about that the 1037 00:42:37,250 --> 00:42:35,130 government did so you do have to wonder 1038 00:42:41,390 --> 00:42:37,260 you know was this some sort of hysteria 1039 00:42:43,790 --> 00:42:41,400 that just snowballed from there but that 1040 00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:43,800 always astounded me that people from all 1041 00:42:51,710 --> 00:42:46,910 over who never met are having these 1042 00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:51,720 extremely connected experiences yeah and 1043 00:42:54,349 --> 00:42:53,250 it's I mean the mind can do interesting 1044 00:42:56,660 --> 00:42:54,359 things 1045 00:42:58,099 --> 00:42:56,670 I'm not saying immediately like oh well 1046 00:42:59,660 --> 00:42:58,109 clearly it's all their heads but there 1047 00:43:02,030 --> 00:42:59,670 is something to be said for there are 1048 00:43:04,790 --> 00:43:02,040 connect like there's the idea of you 1049 00:43:06,349 --> 00:43:04,800 know most religions have angels across 1050 00:43:07,849 --> 00:43:06,359 the world most religions have something 1051 00:43:12,140 --> 00:43:07,859 that something divine that comes down 1052 00:43:14,089 --> 00:43:12,150 from the sky and that could mold enroll 1053 00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:14,099 in snowball over the years and all of a 1054 00:43:16,700 --> 00:43:15,510 sudden it's not something define that's 1055 00:43:17,839 --> 00:43:16,710 coming out of the sky something bad 1056 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:17,849 that's coming out of sky or it's 1057 00:43:20,660 --> 00:43:19,050 something good that's coming out of sky 1058 00:43:24,050 --> 00:43:20,670 or it's just something that's from above 1059 00:43:28,099 --> 00:43:24,060 that is coming down and affecting us so 1060 00:43:29,930 --> 00:43:28,109 what you do is no longer in your control 1061 00:43:32,180 --> 00:43:29,940 it's the same thing for me for like 1062 00:43:34,250 --> 00:43:32,190 demon possession it's just like oh the 1063 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:34,260 devil made me do it and alien made me do 1064 00:43:36,620 --> 00:43:34,410 it 1065 00:43:39,650 --> 00:43:36,630 I know I don't usually act like this but 1066 00:43:42,910 --> 00:43:39,660 I got abducted it's an excuse yeah in a 1067 00:43:45,500 --> 00:43:42,920 way yeah you it's something I you know I 1068 00:43:46,970 --> 00:43:45,510 make excuses for myself all the time 1069 00:43:50,660 --> 00:43:46,980 without realizing that I'm doing it 1070 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:50,670 human beings need to excuse if they feel 1071 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:52,890 like they're not doing something that 1072 00:43:56,510 --> 00:43:53,970 they should be doing or they're doing 1073 00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:56,520 something that they shouldn't there's it 1074 00:44:01,430 --> 00:43:58,530 I feel like it's almost on instinct to 1075 00:44:02,839 --> 00:44:01,440 want to be like well I'm you know I'm 1076 00:44:05,570 --> 00:44:02,849 having chips tonight but I'll probably 1077 00:44:07,940 --> 00:44:05,580 have a salad tomorrow or like I'm gonna 1078 00:44:09,170 --> 00:44:07,950 like you know I'm gonna have three 1079 00:44:11,450 --> 00:44:09,180 drinks tonight so I'm not going to drink 1080 00:44:14,349 --> 00:44:11,460 for the rest of the week like it's 1081 00:44:17,930 --> 00:44:14,359 excusing certain behavior and when it's 1082 00:44:20,930 --> 00:44:17,940 something that's belief based the excuse 1083 00:44:23,570 --> 00:44:20,940 becomes not only more viable to yourself 1084 00:44:25,660 --> 00:44:23,580 but it becomes more you're more likely 1085 00:44:28,700 --> 00:44:25,670 to get belief or from others like 1086 00:44:31,019 --> 00:44:28,710 there's this shared hysteria like with 1087 00:44:33,210 --> 00:44:31,029 Randy Quaid and his wife 1088 00:44:34,859 --> 00:44:33,220 Randee quit again yeah Randy Quaid and 1089 00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:34,869 his wife both believe that the same 1090 00:44:38,670 --> 00:44:36,640 people that killed his ledger are trying 1091 00:44:40,349 --> 00:44:38,680 to kill them and they've been around 1092 00:44:41,789 --> 00:44:40,359 each other so long that like there's an 1093 00:44:43,799 --> 00:44:41,799 aggregate I'm sure there's an actual 1094 00:44:48,749 --> 00:44:43,809 medical term for it um but it is this 1095 00:44:50,309 --> 00:44:48,759 kind of like shared psychosis so that 1096 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:50,319 kind of stuff is possible it is 1097 00:44:53,579 --> 00:44:51,970 interesting of course that there's like 1098 00:44:55,410 --> 00:44:53,589 the story could happen all over the 1099 00:44:58,049 --> 00:44:55,420 world but I think that's also like a fun 1100 00:45:00,329 --> 00:44:58,059 study into how we all aren't that 1101 00:45:02,009 --> 00:45:00,339 different and there are third certain 1102 00:45:03,809 --> 00:45:02,019 things throughout the world that we 1103 00:45:06,930 --> 00:45:03,819 could just be affected by on a base 1104 00:45:08,999 --> 00:45:06,940 biological level like how majestic a 1105 00:45:10,859 --> 00:45:09,009 bald eagle looks like something flying 1106 00:45:13,470 --> 00:45:10,869 through the sky is majestic that will 1107 00:45:16,589 --> 00:45:13,480 seep into your brain and could come out 1108 00:45:18,450 --> 00:45:16,599 in other ways yeah or you know 1109 00:45:21,299 --> 00:45:18,460 well we evil could be getting abducted 1110 00:45:24,420 --> 00:45:21,309 by aliens and then you have this whole 1111 00:45:26,490 --> 00:45:24,430 idea of a phenomenon that things are 1112 00:45:28,710 --> 00:45:26,500 happening around the world at the same 1113 00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:28,720 exact time with absolutely no 1114 00:45:34,289 --> 00:45:30,609 communication yeah you know they say 1115 00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:34,299 that no animal was created at different 1116 00:45:38,999 --> 00:45:36,400 parts throughout the one yeah there you 1117 00:45:41,279 --> 00:45:39,009 go yeah never met right at the same 1118 00:45:44,370 --> 00:45:41,289 collective moment in time they all were 1119 00:45:46,410 --> 00:45:44,380 like ooh this makes me feel good this 1120 00:45:47,789 --> 00:45:46,420 makes me lose my inhibition I don't I 1121 00:45:49,980 --> 00:45:47,799 can do whatever I want tonight and not 1122 00:45:52,559 --> 00:45:49,990 have to remember it tomorrow you know so 1123 00:45:55,319 --> 00:45:52,569 you have to wonder you know is this some 1124 00:45:57,809 --> 00:45:55,329 sort of I don't want to say fate or 1125 00:46:01,529 --> 00:45:57,819 destiny but the idea that things can 1126 00:46:03,569 --> 00:46:01,539 happen in synchronistic terms all over 1127 00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:03,579 the world at the right time and is the 1128 00:46:08,009 --> 00:46:05,200 abduction phenomenon part of that or 1129 00:46:11,069 --> 00:46:08,019 let's say let's take a mass UFO sighting 1130 00:46:13,470 --> 00:46:11,079 for instance something like in 1997 the 1131 00:46:17,430 --> 00:46:13,480 Phoenix lights incident thousands of 1132 00:46:21,269 --> 00:46:17,440 people witnessed a triangular formation 1133 00:46:23,279 --> 00:46:21,279 of lights in the sky massive huge people 1134 00:46:24,569 --> 00:46:23,289 got video this said this that we won't 1135 00:46:26,849 --> 00:46:24,579 go into the case history because I'm 1136 00:46:29,609 --> 00:46:26,859 most of arles first know about it but 1137 00:46:32,190 --> 00:46:29,619 while all these people were seeing the 1138 00:46:34,740 --> 00:46:32,200 same thing when they would describe it 1139 00:46:36,450 --> 00:46:34,750 to people all of their stories were 1140 00:46:38,490 --> 00:46:36,460 different and what exactly they were 1141 00:46:42,089 --> 00:46:38,500 seeing weird so that's when perception 1142 00:46:43,230 --> 00:46:42,099 and question interest while this may be 1143 00:46:45,870 --> 00:46:43,240 happening in real time 1144 00:46:47,730 --> 00:46:45,880 and a million people you know a thousand 1145 00:46:49,650 --> 00:46:47,740 in this case we're seeing it they're all 1146 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:49,660 saying it was completely some of it 1147 00:46:53,700 --> 00:46:51,130 while the other person saying it was so 1148 00:46:55,589 --> 00:46:53,710 loud or it was going really fast 1149 00:46:59,490 --> 00:46:55,599 no it was hovering you know it's it's 1150 00:47:01,140 --> 00:46:59,500 fascinating things are they're having a 1151 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:01,150 different effect on people and a 1152 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:02,530 perception of what's happening is 1153 00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:04,690 different to totally now and I think 1154 00:47:09,089 --> 00:47:06,400 what's what's interesting about that too 1155 00:47:11,670 --> 00:47:09,099 is it's it's something that is a 1156 00:47:13,020 --> 00:47:11,680 constant for human beings like and it's 1157 00:47:14,609 --> 00:47:13,030 something that only kind of grows 1158 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:14,619 stronger it's actually it's funny now 1159 00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:16,210 that I was thinking oh it's not going to 1160 00:47:19,260 --> 00:47:17,710 go like it's funny to me that there 1161 00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:19,270 haven't been more like we live in a 1162 00:47:23,070 --> 00:47:20,800 world where there are people we have 1163 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:23,080 flat earthers again we have flat 1164 00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:25,930 earthers again let me just we have flat 1165 00:47:30,660 --> 00:47:27,609 earthers we have people that believe 1166 00:47:32,849 --> 00:47:30,670 that the world is flat because you can 1167 00:47:34,410 --> 00:47:32,859 you repeat that we have flat earth ok 1168 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:34,420 yes mm-hmm 1169 00:47:39,300 --> 00:47:37,330 like that that's bonkers and yet I'm not 1170 00:47:41,370 --> 00:47:39,310 seeing nearly as many celebrities going 1171 00:47:44,490 --> 00:47:41,380 I believe in aliens anymore like that 1172 00:47:46,530 --> 00:47:44,500 what's weird to me is like now at a time 1173 00:47:48,690 --> 00:47:46,540 where everybody has cameras and like 1174 00:47:52,109 --> 00:47:48,700 it's not just like granny shaky footage 1175 00:47:54,540 --> 00:47:52,119 there's nothing it's a very very good 1176 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:54,550 argument like at the time at a time when 1177 00:47:58,380 --> 00:47:56,770 we only like you at a time where it's 1178 00:48:00,349 --> 00:47:58,390 like you know you couldn't really fake a 1179 00:48:03,210 --> 00:48:00,359 photo unless you really really tried 1180 00:48:05,010 --> 00:48:03,220 there was what I get was rampant with 1181 00:48:08,339 --> 00:48:05,020 Bigfoot sightings and lockups monster 1182 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:08,349 sightings and UFO videos and photos and 1183 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:10,810 all this stuff and now when people have 1184 00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:14,130 drones and GoPros and all this stuff and 1185 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:16,510 it's a very good argument a lot of 1186 00:48:22,589 --> 00:48:20,050 people argue that these things are so 1187 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:22,599 elusive and so advanced that as we 1188 00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:25,330 progress with our own technology they're 1189 00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:27,609 always a step ahead remaining at least 1190 00:48:33,720 --> 00:48:30,640 yeah but then you got to think do they 1191 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:33,730 really care about one person on the 1192 00:48:37,710 --> 00:48:35,770 ground with an iPhone be like oh my god 1193 00:48:40,500 --> 00:48:37,720 yeah you know what I mean I will say I 1194 00:48:43,079 --> 00:48:40,510 am having a fun time imagining just a 1195 00:48:46,020 --> 00:48:43,089 gray sitting in a circle it like up I 1196 00:48:48,450 --> 00:48:46,030 finally got eyes on like 500 years late 1197 00:48:49,890 --> 00:48:48,460 or whatever all right well um I guess 1198 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:49,900 we'll just turn off the cloaking device 1199 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:52,330 does it like well yeah you got to reboot 1200 00:48:55,230 --> 00:48:53,770 it I don't know I didn't know 1201 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:55,240 take them this long to figure this out I 1202 00:48:59,490 --> 00:48:57,010 know we've moved on but this is the only 1203 00:49:01,710 --> 00:48:59,500 thing we have we are from a crash in 1204 00:49:03,300 --> 00:49:01,720 Roswell and gave them this technology of 1205 00:49:05,340 --> 00:49:03,310 the iPhone it took them this long are 1206 00:49:07,380 --> 00:49:05,350 you totally not a lot of people 1207 00:49:11,430 --> 00:49:07,390 absolutely leave that injured right no 1208 00:49:13,020 --> 00:49:11,440 like that's it's especially with like 1209 00:49:16,020 --> 00:49:13,030 iPhone technology and stuff like that 1210 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:16,030 it's it's insane it's insanity 1211 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:18,130 we have mother boxes in our pocket 1212 00:49:21,420 --> 00:49:19,690 that's so there's a there's a comic book 1213 00:49:24,990 --> 00:49:21,430 reference for you we have mother boxes 1214 00:49:27,980 --> 00:49:25,000 we have science fiction is becoming 1215 00:49:31,500 --> 00:49:27,990 science fact more and more and more and 1216 00:49:32,910 --> 00:49:31,510 it's still something where it's always 1217 00:49:35,910 --> 00:49:32,920 interesting about it is it's still 1218 00:49:39,420 --> 00:49:35,920 man-made like most of the advances that 1219 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:39,430 we have are still man-made and yet we 1220 00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:41,890 can do something as phenomenal as make 1221 00:49:47,780 --> 00:49:45,250 an iPhone but we can't possibly make a 1222 00:49:51,390 --> 00:49:47,790 crystal skull or the pyramids or 1223 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:51,400 Stonehenge or any other it was all alien 1224 00:49:56,220 --> 00:49:53,650 I assume you're not in hmm yeah no it's 1225 00:49:58,230 --> 00:49:56,230 not not not particularly let's let's 1226 00:49:59,910 --> 00:49:58,240 give humid subscribe yeah well not even 1227 00:50:01,800 --> 00:49:59,920 let's give humans come credits let's 1228 00:50:03,210 --> 00:50:01,810 give slave owners some cred very 1229 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:03,220 actually the only time you're gonna ever 1230 00:50:09,330 --> 00:50:07,090 hear me say that if you do not care if 1231 00:50:12,810 --> 00:50:09,340 the person that is making your pyramid 1232 00:50:15,150 --> 00:50:12,820 eat or sleep or Dyess can't get it done 1233 00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:15,160 pretty quick it's gonna be you're just 1234 00:50:18,540 --> 00:50:16,510 gonna work out you're gonna fight these 1235 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:18,550 people are capable of things that nobody 1236 00:50:22,290 --> 00:50:20,650 thought humans were capable of cuz they 1237 00:50:23,970 --> 00:50:22,300 sleep on each other yeah and they don't 1238 00:50:27,140 --> 00:50:23,980 get to bathe and they don't get to eat 1239 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:27,150 regularly and they die all the time 1240 00:50:31,590 --> 00:50:30,130 being crushed by giant rocks and then it 1241 00:50:33,420 --> 00:50:31,600 was probably the process of elimination 1242 00:50:35,820 --> 00:50:33,430 it's like oh five people couldn't lift 1243 00:50:36,570 --> 00:50:35,830 that rock do ten people know if that 1244 00:50:38,340 --> 00:50:36,580 didn't work either 1245 00:50:40,980 --> 00:50:38,350 alright twenty people this time like 1246 00:50:42,330 --> 00:50:40,990 that's what happened it was like it's 1247 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:42,340 not like they had the pyramids done in 1248 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:45,330 like a week forty years trying 1249 00:50:49,980 --> 00:50:47,890 generations built the pyramids right and 1250 00:50:51,420 --> 00:50:49,990 tithe building the pyramids it's a 1251 00:50:52,890 --> 00:50:51,430 really good point the Crystal Skull 1252 00:50:56,970 --> 00:50:52,900 stuff too it's just like that 1253 00:50:58,650 --> 00:50:56,980 it's that one I can kind of understand 1254 00:51:00,200 --> 00:50:58,660 because of like the smoothness people 1255 00:51:02,580 --> 00:51:00,210 always bring up how smooth they are 1256 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:02,590 stuff like that but it's still like 1257 00:51:08,010 --> 00:51:05,650 people human beings are made 1258 00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:08,020 are able to do some amazing things they 1259 00:51:15,180 --> 00:51:10,569 are incredibly capable when there is 1260 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:15,190 when ego is removed when onedrive is 1261 00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:17,170 remote not necessarily Drive but like 1262 00:51:22,349 --> 00:51:20,160 when this idea that to succeed 1263 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:22,359 necessarily is kinda removed when you're 1264 00:51:29,220 --> 00:51:26,410 just doing something to do it man is 1265 00:51:34,769 --> 00:51:29,230 capable of a lot right so ya know not an 1266 00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:34,779 ancient aliens guy is always at all yeah 1267 00:51:42,210 --> 00:51:38,529 yeah the fact that that television show 1268 00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:42,220 has been on for like 12 years now it's 1269 00:51:46,019 --> 00:51:44,319 you know it's fun like that was a venue 1270 00:51:48,620 --> 00:51:46,029 and it's funny and it's another thing 1271 00:51:51,269 --> 00:51:48,630 where it's like I honestly enough and 1272 00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:51,279 this comes back to my humans want to be 1273 00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:53,200 important thing we want to be special we 1274 00:51:57,569 --> 00:51:54,640 want to be better than everybody else or 1275 00:51:59,519 --> 00:51:57,579 everything else you is so of course 1276 00:52:02,700 --> 00:51:59,529 we've been visited by aliens in the past 1277 00:52:04,170 --> 00:52:02,710 but what's ironic about that is I would 1278 00:52:05,519 --> 00:52:04,180 argue that we are much more special 1279 00:52:07,799 --> 00:52:05,529 having been able to do those things 1280 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:07,809 ourselves yeah it was no alien 1281 00:52:11,279 --> 00:52:09,970 assistance guarantee but to insinuate 1282 00:52:13,289 --> 00:52:11,289 that the aliens went down there to 1283 00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:13,299 jumpstart our civilization or something 1284 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:15,730 levy is quite a bit of importance 1285 00:52:20,370 --> 00:52:18,130 against our race which I don't think 1286 00:52:23,339 --> 00:52:20,380 that we are necessarily like that's 1287 00:52:25,769 --> 00:52:23,349 that's bonkers that's like three three 1288 00:52:27,359 --> 00:52:25,779 thousand years ago three thousand years 1289 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:27,369 ago there was somebody that was capable 1290 00:52:32,099 --> 00:52:30,010 of traveling here they would own us at 1291 00:52:34,140 --> 00:52:32,109 this point that's a good point you have 1292 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:34,150 to wonder why like if they were visiting 1293 00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:36,970 us so often during the time of antiquity 1294 00:52:42,299 --> 00:52:40,089 ago why have they not intervened since 1295 00:52:44,609 --> 00:52:42,309 yes actually when they know that we're 1296 00:52:46,049 --> 00:52:44,619 now capable of wiping out the entire 1297 00:52:48,269 --> 00:52:46,059 planet in harm 1298 00:52:51,359 --> 00:52:48,279 yeah maybe that's part of them Pleasant 1299 00:52:53,309 --> 00:52:51,369 maybe they they gave us the nudge at the 1300 00:52:55,529 --> 00:52:53,319 beginning you know into the deep end of 1301 00:52:57,450 --> 00:52:55,539 the pool and now it's let's see how they 1302 00:53:00,059 --> 00:52:57,460 fend on their own maybe it's the 1303 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:00,069 grandest social experiment maybe we are 1304 00:53:06,329 --> 00:53:03,490 a reality show or this galactic Network 1305 00:53:08,940 --> 00:53:06,339 but even that and it comes back to like 1306 00:53:11,819 --> 00:53:08,950 religion or anything else it's giving us 1307 00:53:14,309 --> 00:53:11,829 a reason for being I agree which is 1308 00:53:16,109 --> 00:53:14,319 comforting of course but guess what 1309 00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:16,119 there might just not be a reason that 1310 00:53:19,109 --> 00:53:17,680 we're here there might know we're just 1311 00:53:22,380 --> 00:53:19,119 here to be you 1312 00:53:24,839 --> 00:53:22,390 and to live and to exist and like I said 1313 00:53:27,839 --> 00:53:24,849 whether there is alien life or not that 1314 00:53:30,180 --> 00:53:27,849 question of why we're here is the most 1315 00:53:31,769 --> 00:53:30,190 terrifying Yael yeah now they're knowing 1316 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:31,779 the answer yeah cuz they're just at 1317 00:53:35,700 --> 00:53:33,729 least for now there isn't one 1318 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:35,710 yeah there is no answer this is where 1319 00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:37,450 religion gives in this is where back 1320 00:53:42,569 --> 00:53:39,609 it's all to comfort people it's all to 1321 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:42,579 be like well especially people who may 1322 00:53:46,739 --> 00:53:44,410 or may not be special yeah like that's 1323 00:53:49,079 --> 00:53:46,749 or or or even just arrogant enough to 1324 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:49,089 think that they're special like anybody 1325 00:53:53,940 --> 00:53:51,249 who just kind of goes about their 1326 00:53:56,729 --> 00:53:53,950 day-to-day life and it is just moving 1327 00:53:58,349 --> 00:53:56,739 through the day it's very easy for 1328 00:54:01,249 --> 00:53:58,359 somebody like that to be like oh well I 1329 00:54:03,930 --> 00:54:01,259 can give all this to a higher power and 1330 00:54:05,279 --> 00:54:03,940 I'll be rewarded for that at some point 1331 00:54:08,489 --> 00:54:05,289 or things will be different something 1332 00:54:10,890 --> 00:54:08,499 will change and it's enticing and that's 1333 00:54:14,339 --> 00:54:10,900 exciting but it's it's also just very 1334 00:54:17,700 --> 00:54:14,349 easy to fall into that trap and to then 1335 00:54:19,890 --> 00:54:17,710 your life kind of to an extent arguably 1336 00:54:22,170 --> 00:54:19,900 I'm not here to come in and [\h__\h] I I 1337 00:54:23,910 --> 00:54:22,180 like I said I was raised Catholic and I 1338 00:54:28,259 --> 00:54:23,920 am very much very confident that I 1339 00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:28,269 turned out to not be a jerk because I 1340 00:54:32,459 --> 00:54:30,640 was raised with a set of morals that 1341 00:54:34,829 --> 00:54:32,469 were instilled in me whether or not I 1342 00:54:37,709 --> 00:54:34,839 believe the other aspects of that now 1343 00:54:39,420 --> 00:54:37,719 that's it doesn't matter to me because I 1344 00:54:41,759 --> 00:54:39,430 know that I am a good person and 1345 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:41,769 actively trying to be a good person but 1346 00:54:45,390 --> 00:54:43,690 it can also have a negative effect and 1347 00:54:47,279 --> 00:54:45,400 it can make people closed-minded and it 1348 00:54:49,620 --> 00:54:47,289 can make and that's that can be said 1349 00:54:53,459 --> 00:54:49,630 about any belief system is all of a 1350 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:53,469 sudden other things have to not be true 1351 00:54:57,599 --> 00:54:55,930 for your thing to be true and that's 1352 00:54:59,430 --> 00:54:57,609 where it becomes problematic and that's 1353 00:55:01,229 --> 00:54:59,440 the same with aliens or demon possession 1354 00:55:02,579 --> 00:55:01,239 or religion or anything like that that I 1355 00:55:05,969 --> 00:55:02,589 always come into trouble with is it's 1356 00:55:09,180 --> 00:55:05,979 like something suffers for one belief to 1357 00:55:11,279 --> 00:55:09,190 continue something else has to like 1358 00:55:13,950 --> 00:55:11,289 there was like if you if you are 1359 00:55:15,690 --> 00:55:13,960 Catholic or a Christian you have to 1360 00:55:17,969 --> 00:55:15,700 believe in the devil you have to believe 1361 00:55:19,620 --> 00:55:17,979 in demon possession you get like there's 1362 00:55:21,900 --> 00:55:19,630 no if ands or buts about it 1363 00:55:24,269 --> 00:55:21,910 to believe in God is to believe in the 1364 00:55:27,029 --> 00:55:24,279 devil and to believe in demons so then 1365 00:55:29,009 --> 00:55:27,039 it's just like well to believe in alien 1366 00:55:32,730 --> 00:55:29,019 abduction while there are some things 1367 00:55:34,140 --> 00:55:32,740 that have been proven to be a hoax 1368 00:55:35,550 --> 00:55:34,150 and this is where it could get tough as 1369 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:35,560 well and this is where I admire you 1370 00:55:40,260 --> 00:55:36,970 greatly because like I said you're 1371 00:55:42,060 --> 00:55:40,270 resolved does not dissolve you have you 1372 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:42,070 there is an extent where you almost have 1373 00:55:46,770 --> 00:55:43,690 to believe anything that isn't a hoax 1374 00:55:49,380 --> 00:55:46,780 because it's one step closer to making 1375 00:55:50,730 --> 00:55:49,390 what you believe be true it's one more 1376 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:50,740 thing that you there's one more notch 1377 00:55:54,750 --> 00:55:52,570 like we're one step closer because this 1378 00:55:57,290 --> 00:55:54,760 happened this this thing over here not 1379 00:56:00,000 --> 00:55:57,300 true but this triangle fiery triangle 1380 00:56:00,810 --> 00:56:00,010 thousands of people saw it we're one 1381 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:00,820 step closer 1382 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:02,890 it didn't get proof and proof other 1383 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:04,090 buddies stories are different but 1384 00:56:07,830 --> 00:56:06,130 everybody saw the same thing that's a 1385 00:56:10,500 --> 00:56:07,840 win and that's something you have to 1386 00:56:12,810 --> 00:56:10,510 stick by that's hard and it could also 1387 00:56:16,410 --> 00:56:12,820 mean that you have to even if something 1388 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:16,420 sounds so unbelievable so crazy because 1389 00:56:21,450 --> 00:56:19,330 it hasn't been disproved you gotta go 1390 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:21,460 with it some of these stories I've heard 1391 00:56:27,359 --> 00:56:23,890 when I'm writing down notes about what 1392 00:56:32,930 --> 00:56:27,369 people are telling me the inherent need 1393 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:36,359 because you run into this problem of if 1394 00:56:42,300 --> 00:56:39,010 I'm going to be a journalist on this 1395 00:56:44,700 --> 00:56:42,310 topic I want my readers to come away 1396 00:56:46,620 --> 00:56:44,710 believing it right you know like maybe 1397 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:46,630 that's your goal maybe that's your 1398 00:56:51,990 --> 00:56:50,050 objective is to change someone's mind 1399 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:52,000 but at least open your mind 1400 00:56:57,630 --> 00:56:55,330 absolutely now if someone sees a UFO and 1401 00:57:01,109 --> 00:56:57,640 then says also it was piloted by a 1402 00:57:04,230 --> 00:57:01,119 Bigfoot I'm going to be a little thrown 1403 00:57:07,380 --> 00:57:04,240 off by that and I might not include the 1404 00:57:12,359 --> 00:57:07,390 Bigfoot piloting the spaceship into the 1405 00:57:13,830 --> 00:57:12,369 narrative no that is a that is not doing 1406 00:57:16,970 --> 00:57:13,840 the person who you're interviewing any 1407 00:57:20,130 --> 00:57:16,980 justice on if they believe this happened 1408 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:20,140 Who am I to say it didn't exactly the 1409 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:22,330 more bizarre I come to find out in this 1410 00:57:26,700 --> 00:57:23,770 topic the more I'm willing to believe 1411 00:57:27,359 --> 00:57:26,710 yeah I I get that I am so the stability 1412 00:57:29,370 --> 00:57:27,369 is t-man 1413 00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:29,380 yeah and and in that changes from time 1414 00:57:35,099 --> 00:57:33,520 to time absolutely but if they if this 1415 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:35,109 is what they believe happened and I come 1416 00:57:37,890 --> 00:57:36,490 back to the time and time again and they 1417 00:57:40,290 --> 00:57:37,900 are telling me the same story over and 1418 00:57:42,180 --> 00:57:40,300 over and they haven't exaggerated it 1419 00:57:43,859 --> 00:57:42,190 they haven't added anything I'm more 1420 00:57:45,630 --> 00:57:43,869 willing to be like yeah I totally 1421 00:57:46,890 --> 00:57:45,640 believe that happened to you you look at 1422 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:46,900 someone like Travis 1423 00:57:54,060 --> 00:57:50,170 this man was supposedly abducted in the 1424 00:57:56,490 --> 00:57:54,070 late 70s mhm he was a walker he was with 1425 00:57:59,460 --> 00:57:56,500 five other people they all witnessed 1426 00:58:02,760 --> 00:57:59,470 this man get shot by a beam of light 1427 00:58:05,610 --> 00:58:02,770 from the sky and he disappeared 1428 00:58:08,250 --> 00:58:05,620 what happened Travis your own words 1429 00:58:11,100 --> 00:58:08,260 briefly okay well there was another day 1430 00:58:11,430 --> 00:58:11,110 yeah just another workday out in the 1431 00:58:14,700 --> 00:58:11,440 woods 1432 00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:14,710 captain trees this is where in the state 1433 00:58:19,470 --> 00:58:17,920 greater National Forest in Arizona there 1434 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:19,480 were seven of us we were starting to get 1435 00:58:25,290 --> 00:58:21,610 dark we loaded up our chainsaws and 1436 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:25,300 you're a logger yeah and we were headed 1437 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:27,490 home as we were leaving there we saw a 1438 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:30,610 light coming through the trees and when 1439 00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:31,810 we finally got down the road where we 1440 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:34,000 could see the source of this light we 1441 00:58:41,010 --> 00:58:37,330 saw any UFO how do we near the road all 1442 00:58:43,650 --> 00:58:41,020 seven all seven of us it was only 90 1443 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:43,660 feet away it was very clear and 1444 00:58:47,730 --> 00:58:45,730 unmistakable the minute it came into 1445 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:47,740 view somebody yelled except it's a 1446 00:58:51,450 --> 00:58:49,330 spaceship or something like that 1447 00:58:54,630 --> 00:58:51,460 we stopped the truck and they got out 1448 00:58:57,270 --> 00:58:54,640 and went toward it not exist you not the 1449 00:58:59,070 --> 00:58:57,280 o-6 not the insects they were yelling at 1450 00:59:01,410 --> 00:58:59,080 me to get back on the truck and get away 1451 00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:01,420 from there good thinking you know it 1452 00:59:08,430 --> 00:59:04,720 would have been anyway as I got closer 1453 00:59:11,940 --> 00:59:08,440 to it it started to move and started to 1454 00:59:13,830 --> 00:59:11,950 the sound started to get louder and that 1455 00:59:17,070 --> 00:59:13,840 scared me I jumped down behind some 1456 00:59:19,620 --> 00:59:17,080 cover there and then in the truck were 1457 00:59:24,750 --> 00:59:19,630 screaming at me to get away from that so 1458 00:59:28,290 --> 00:59:24,760 I raised up to go and I was hit it felt 1459 00:59:30,510 --> 00:59:28,300 like a physical blow and I blacked out 1460 00:59:32,670 --> 00:59:30,520 the men in the truck said they saw a 1461 00:59:36,270 --> 00:59:32,680 powerful bolt of energy come out of the 1462 00:59:37,770 --> 00:59:36,280 bottom of the craft and hit me I said it 1463 00:59:39,180 --> 00:59:37,780 just looked like a grenade went off in 1464 00:59:41,430 --> 00:59:39,190 front of me in there sometimes I said it 1465 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:41,440 threw me through the air about ten feet 1466 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:43,090 you were watching this right Mike 1467 00:59:51,309 --> 00:59:46,130 yes I said I hit the ground 1468 00:59:56,019 --> 00:59:51,319 and they thought it killed me he's gone 1469 00:59:58,930 --> 00:59:56,029 for week two weeks I don't recall those 1470 01:00:02,079 --> 00:59:58,940 five people still alive yes most of them 1471 01:00:04,839 --> 01:00:02,089 I believe now for those weeks where he 1472 01:00:06,460 --> 01:00:04,849 was missing everyone believed that these 1473 01:00:08,109 --> 01:00:06,470 men had murdered him right that an 1474 01:00:10,630 --> 01:00:08,119 accident happened they were covering it 1475 01:00:13,089 --> 01:00:10,640 up this idea of an alien abduction was 1476 01:00:15,339 --> 01:00:13,099 completely made up this made 1477 01:00:17,259 --> 01:00:15,349 international headlines within the week 1478 01:00:18,460 --> 01:00:17,269 people from all over the world were 1479 01:00:20,859 --> 01:00:18,470 coming to interview these people they 1480 01:00:23,170 --> 01:00:20,869 were put under polygraph examinations 1481 01:00:24,700 --> 01:00:23,180 they passed with flying colors 1482 01:00:27,519 --> 01:00:24,710 meanwhile the guys still missing 1483 01:00:29,259 --> 01:00:27,529 presumed the presumed dead at this point 1484 01:00:30,969 --> 01:00:29,269 they can't find a body they go back to 1485 01:00:34,299 --> 01:00:30,979 the site when this happened nothing 1486 01:00:37,210 --> 01:00:34,309 several weeks later he shows up without 1487 01:00:40,539 --> 01:00:37,220 having talked to these loggers within 1488 01:00:42,579 --> 01:00:40,549 that time supposedly they had 1489 01:00:46,870 --> 01:00:42,589 corroborating stories about what 1490 01:00:49,180 --> 01:00:46,880 happened that's a no-no means you have 1491 01:00:51,999 --> 01:00:49,190 to wonder oh absolutely yeah there's 1492 01:00:54,819 --> 01:00:52,009 things there there are exceptions to the 1493 01:00:58,059 --> 01:00:54,829 rule with you anything because I as you 1494 01:01:00,309 --> 01:00:58,069 very well now I am fascinated by Ed and 1495 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:00,319 Lorraine Warren hmm because there's this 1496 01:01:05,019 --> 01:01:02,930 idea when something it's it's things 1497 01:01:06,489 --> 01:01:05,029 like that I honestly you telling mattad 1498 01:01:08,259 --> 01:01:06,499 me that story makes me want to go home 1499 01:01:10,930 --> 01:01:08,269 and read all about it if you have 1500 01:01:13,420 --> 01:01:10,940 there's a book borrow it yeah and I'm 1501 01:01:15,719 --> 01:01:13,430 moving into a horror movie they like 1502 01:01:18,339 --> 01:01:15,729 Hollywood I stayed at of course yeah um 1503 01:01:20,709 --> 01:01:18,349 that to me is very interesting and 1504 01:01:22,749 --> 01:01:20,719 that's when it's that's that's woes are 1505 01:01:25,989 --> 01:01:22,759 the kind of stories where I will I will 1506 01:01:27,430 --> 01:01:25,999 listen at the very least like with the 1507 01:01:29,620 --> 01:01:27,440 Warren's like I know how crazy the 1508 01:01:31,630 --> 01:01:29,630 Catholic Church's I know how extreme the 1509 01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:31,640 Catholic Church is the idea that the 1510 01:01:36,489 --> 01:01:32,930 Catholic Church looked at these two 1511 01:01:40,900 --> 01:01:36,499 people and said yes you go do this 1512 01:01:43,299 --> 01:01:40,910 exorcism is crazy yeah it's crazy like 1513 01:01:45,549 --> 01:01:43,309 the idea of doing an exorcism is it sane 1514 01:01:48,940 --> 01:01:45,559 insane to begin with but the fact that 1515 01:01:51,519 --> 01:01:48,950 they break hundreds or thousands of 1516 01:01:54,670 --> 01:01:51,529 years of tradition to allow these two 1517 01:01:56,559 --> 01:01:54,680 non priests one of whom was a woman to 1518 01:01:58,809 --> 01:01:56,569 perform an exorcism I could be wrong I 1519 01:01:59,320 --> 01:01:58,819 think I could be wrong in the sense that 1520 01:02:00,820 --> 01:01:59,330 I feel like 1521 01:02:02,650 --> 01:02:00,830 they ordained given together with the 1522 01:02:04,330 --> 01:02:02,660 Catholic Church I would put five bucks 1523 01:02:06,610 --> 01:02:04,340 down right now that says that Ed was 1524 01:02:08,350 --> 01:02:06,620 ordained to do it Lorraine got to watch 1525 01:02:10,900 --> 01:02:08,360 her yeah even though she's the one with 1526 01:02:12,580 --> 01:02:10,910 inherent psychic abilities apparently so 1527 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:12,590 like it's stuff like that that makes me 1528 01:02:16,300 --> 01:02:14,570 well like I said I'm tying it back to 1529 01:02:18,130 --> 01:02:16,310 the beginning I want to believe I'm 1530 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:18,140 gonna look up Travis Walton I want to 1531 01:02:22,540 --> 01:02:19,730 read some more about Travis Walton but 1532 01:02:24,130 --> 01:02:22,550 it's put my hand in that wound man yeah 1533 01:02:28,270 --> 01:02:24,140 I put my hand on that woman's back to 1534 01:02:31,050 --> 01:02:28,280 that handout yeah putting salt in it 1535 01:02:34,810 --> 01:02:31,060 salt up my hand and shoving that way Oh 1536 01:02:35,950 --> 01:02:34,820 what do you got for me I got so you 1537 01:02:37,300 --> 01:02:35,960 thought it would be kind of fun and I 1538 01:02:38,590 --> 01:02:37,310 thought this could be a fun way to close 1539 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:38,600 us out here well we've been talking for 1540 01:02:41,740 --> 01:02:39,290 over an hour 1541 01:02:44,150 --> 01:02:41,750 huh so on my show to the segments that 1542 01:02:49,830 --> 01:02:44,160 we do we do a segment called spin it 1543 01:02:53,530 --> 01:02:52,120 okay which is where I'm not going to 1544 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:53,540 give you a spin it today but this is a 1545 01:02:58,510 --> 01:02:55,730 funnel type of people at home is spin it 1546 01:03:00,420 --> 01:02:58,520 I give my guests a negative story and I 1547 01:03:04,300 --> 01:03:00,430 have them give me the old Sean Spicer 1548 01:03:06,310 --> 01:03:04,310 and spin it to me positively tell me why 1549 01:03:08,410 --> 01:03:06,320 it's good the other segment we do is 1550 01:03:10,420 --> 01:03:08,420 called explain where I give people just 1551 01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:10,430 the headline and then they give me the 1552 01:03:14,830 --> 01:03:12,530 story really have fun with it 1553 01:03:16,150 --> 01:03:14,840 I want to very much clarify because I 1554 01:03:17,860 --> 01:03:16,160 would hate to have this whole wonderful 1555 01:03:20,530 --> 01:03:17,870 talk and then make it seem like I am 1556 01:03:22,990 --> 01:03:20,540 making fun of anybody at all I purposely 1557 01:03:25,810 --> 01:03:23,000 chose these two headlines that I'm going 1558 01:03:28,690 --> 01:03:25,820 to give you from weekly world news oh my 1559 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:28,700 god yes yes yes I know it is ridiculous 1560 01:03:34,090 --> 01:03:31,610 I know it is stupid I love Ryan I've 1561 01:03:35,140 --> 01:03:34,100 known him for many years now I'm just 1562 01:03:37,150 --> 01:03:35,150 gonna have we're just gonna have a 1563 01:03:39,790 --> 01:03:37,160 little fun this is just that totally 1564 01:03:41,140 --> 01:03:39,800 lights out just have fun not take those 1565 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:41,150 seriously and I'm just going to give you 1566 01:03:45,430 --> 01:03:43,250 some some headlines if we can't take 1567 01:03:48,930 --> 01:03:45,440 this topic you know with a grain of 1568 01:03:55,209 --> 01:03:48,940 laughing what the hell suppose exactly 1569 01:04:00,489 --> 01:03:57,309 so this one from the Weekly World News 1570 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:00,499 uncle sam oatman aging space-alien 1571 01:04:05,319 --> 01:04:03,170 applies for Social Security what's 1572 01:04:06,699 --> 01:04:05,329 happening there I am why would a why 1573 01:04:08,709 --> 01:04:06,709 would an alien feel like they're 1574 01:04:12,819 --> 01:04:08,719 entitled to social sense of my money to 1575 01:04:17,769 --> 01:04:12,829 my tax to my tax money well given that 1576 01:04:20,229 --> 01:04:17,779 this creature most likely is not here on 1577 01:04:23,650 --> 01:04:20,239 their own you know volition they 1578 01:04:26,170 --> 01:04:23,660 probably crashed at some point Roswell 1579 01:04:28,749 --> 01:04:26,180 1947 or brought to wright-patterson Air 1580 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:28,759 Field II and then study the area 51 and 1581 01:04:32,999 --> 01:04:30,650 then was secretly let out into the 1582 01:04:36,940 --> 01:04:33,009 public disguise physically may be 1583 01:04:42,059 --> 01:04:36,950 married at that point what Social 1584 01:04:46,299 --> 01:04:42,069 Security they are now a legal documented 1585 01:04:48,609 --> 01:04:46,309 individual of the great USA okay Uncle 1586 01:04:51,190 --> 01:04:48,619 Sam oh is that okay okay okay now 1587 01:04:54,489 --> 01:04:51,200 usually usually it is a lot of fun when 1588 01:04:56,140 --> 01:04:54,499 I do these headlines because the the 1589 01:04:57,729 --> 01:04:56,150 explanation is usually way different 1590 01:04:59,799 --> 01:04:57,739 than what the story is actually about 1591 01:05:01,660 --> 01:04:59,809 I am almost convinced that you saw the 1592 01:05:04,180 --> 01:05:01,670 rest of this picture because it's a very 1593 01:05:07,870 --> 01:05:04,190 bottom it says says he's been employed 1594 01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:07,880 at area 51 since crashing nice 1595 01:05:18,910 --> 01:05:13,130 I'm swear to god this real run deep 1596 01:05:29,140 --> 01:05:18,920 y'all there is it that I could have it a 1597 01:05:33,189 --> 01:05:29,150 bit better okay last one last one a lien 1598 01:05:36,249 --> 01:05:33,199 Bible found they worship Oprah what so 1599 01:05:38,199 --> 01:05:36,259 what so so aliens rural Iowa I mean I 1600 01:05:40,719 --> 01:05:38,209 get this one I actually kind of get okay 1601 01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:40,729 right why is alien to it worshiping over 1602 01:05:44,499 --> 01:05:42,890 a whole Bible oh I have new answers to 1603 01:05:47,170 --> 01:05:44,509 this okay all right I'm excited 1604 01:05:49,900 --> 01:05:47,180 Hey whoo it's more of a question who 1605 01:05:50,829 --> 01:05:49,910 doesn't that's yeah to shanks beyond a 1606 01:05:53,079 --> 01:05:50,839 Touche my friend 1607 01:05:54,299 --> 01:05:53,089 yeah he's divinity with voice of my full 1608 01:05:57,969 --> 01:05:54,309 force on a fight 1609 01:06:00,370 --> 01:05:57,979 my second answer would have to be look 1610 01:06:01,930 --> 01:06:00,380 look at someone like Carl Sagan okay 1611 01:06:04,630 --> 01:06:01,940 don't contact me looking at him right 1612 01:06:06,390 --> 01:06:04,640 now look at the beginning of Haase book 1613 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:06,400 so much with the movie no you sir 1614 01:06:13,170 --> 01:06:10,450 with this the message being sent out 1615 01:06:15,270 --> 01:06:13,180 into the universe from so long ago from 1616 01:06:18,540 --> 01:06:15,280 our satellites beaming things out there 1617 01:06:22,890 --> 01:06:18,550 from like maybe a broadcast from the 1618 01:06:26,300 --> 01:06:22,900 Olympics in the 40s and then to model of 1619 01:06:28,860 --> 01:06:26,310 the networks that I love the network 1620 01:06:30,900 --> 01:06:28,870 like that and then you have something 1621 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:30,910 like a Spice Girls song you know the 1622 01:06:36,350 --> 01:06:33,370 further you go out the better 1623 01:06:40,260 --> 01:06:36,360 possibility of finding something maybe 1624 01:06:42,390 --> 01:06:40,270 instead of the Olympics in Germany where 1625 01:06:44,130 --> 01:06:42,400 Hitler made an announcement maybe other 1626 01:06:47,550 --> 01:06:44,140 than that being the first thing that 1627 01:06:51,060 --> 01:06:47,560 some alien civilization found it was 1628 01:06:52,740 --> 01:06:51,070 Oprah saying you've got an iPhone you've 1629 01:06:54,870 --> 01:06:52,750 got an iPhone you've got it on you say 1630 01:06:56,820 --> 01:06:54,880 this is the Galaxy Quest absolutely yeah 1631 01:06:58,230 --> 01:06:56,830 I get it that makes total sense there's 1632 01:07:01,230 --> 01:06:58,240 probably a ship out there that's just 1633 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:01,240 full of like Callisto music and tiny 1634 01:07:04,590 --> 01:07:03,130 little pieces and then like bird up 1635 01:07:06,660 --> 01:07:04,600 coffees with tiny little pieces once 1636 01:07:09,890 --> 01:07:06,670 that guy in the front there's yeah 1637 01:07:12,900 --> 01:07:09,900 there's a whole crew knows it I mean 1638 01:07:15,690 --> 01:07:12,910 look at like oh look at something like 1639 01:07:18,540 --> 01:07:15,700 in the Simpsons the episode where they 1640 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:18,550 create the the miniature civilisation 1641 01:07:22,290 --> 01:07:20,410 and I think it was that a tree on some 1642 01:07:25,620 --> 01:07:22,300 other trails or at the play off of a 1643 01:07:27,750 --> 01:07:25,630 toilet x22 so yeah where they become 1644 01:07:31,410 --> 01:07:27,760 their God and we all they know we've 1645 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:31,420 learned to immature to you isn't exactly 1646 01:07:37,220 --> 01:07:34,090 maybe on some far-off planet may be 1647 01:07:40,860 --> 01:07:37,230 closer than we think there is a huge 1648 01:07:43,950 --> 01:07:40,870 statue of Oprah oh man and they are just 1649 01:07:46,890 --> 01:07:43,960 I did even better with these headphones 1650 01:07:48,690 --> 01:07:46,900 but I could we'll have to come on 1651 01:07:50,970 --> 01:07:48,700 halfway son of a black man I would love 1652 01:07:51,930 --> 01:07:50,980 to yeah although that is when can we 1653 01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:51,940 listen ah 1654 01:07:55,590 --> 01:07:53,770 you can listen not every Saturday we 1655 01:07:56,850 --> 01:07:55,600 usually really sit you can go to you can 1656 01:08:00,360 --> 01:07:56,860 look up half what some of the black men 1657 01:08:02,730 --> 01:08:00,370 on iTunes or I think it's on like pod 1658 01:08:04,050 --> 01:08:02,740 crunch or two and a few other as if 1659 01:08:05,340 --> 01:08:04,060 anybody's familiar with lips and 1660 01:08:06,990 --> 01:08:05,350 anything that you get through lips and 1661 01:08:10,380 --> 01:08:07,000 you can listen the half way to a black 1662 01:08:12,330 --> 01:08:10,390 man on or you can go to WWF I am a black 1663 01:08:14,700 --> 01:08:12,340 man calm and download the mp3s for free 1664 01:08:16,140 --> 01:08:14,710 it is hilarious I listen every week and 1665 01:08:19,290 --> 01:08:16,150 there's not just as I know you there's 1666 01:08:20,550 --> 01:08:19,300 also a podcast there's at least the 1667 01:08:23,130 --> 01:08:20,560 first half of something that will 1668 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:23,140 hopefully be completed down the line 1669 01:08:27,570 --> 01:08:24,970 which is with my friend Joe cavity which 1670 01:08:29,220 --> 01:08:27,580 was in the sky from the shadows is what 1671 01:08:31,770 --> 01:08:29,230 is called this basically us talking 1672 01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:31,780 about the effects of it was inspired by 1673 01:08:37,380 --> 01:08:34,770 when Batman V Superman came out and how 1674 01:08:39,510 --> 01:08:37,390 Batman and Superman have both been 1675 01:08:41,670 --> 01:08:39,520 molded by their interpretations and 1676 01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:41,680 other media over the years significantly 1677 01:08:45,570 --> 01:08:43,930 like just for a little taste Jimmy Olsen 1678 01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:45,580 and kryptonite both introduced in the 1679 01:08:49,110 --> 01:08:47,890 radio show not introduced in the comic 1680 01:08:50,970 --> 01:08:49,120 books again I love your single word 1681 01:08:53,730 --> 01:08:50,980 doing the radio show we would not have 1682 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:53,740 Jimmy Olsen or kryptonite I never knew 1683 01:08:57,510 --> 01:08:55,330 that I wouldn't have Batgirl without the 1684 01:08:59,790 --> 01:08:57,520 66 TV show we wouldn't have yeah there's 1685 01:09:02,490 --> 01:08:59,800 all kinds it's all there like it's all 1686 01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:02,500 stuff that is like it Christopher's the 1687 01:09:05,250 --> 01:09:03,850 Christopher Reeve Superman movies 1688 01:09:06,780 --> 01:09:05,260 affected what happened in the comic 1689 01:09:09,810 --> 01:09:06,790 books and insight like there's just it's 1690 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:09,820 all from that so I was it was very much 1691 01:09:13,050 --> 01:09:12,010 me being like listen Batman V Superman 1692 01:09:14,940 --> 01:09:13,060 is what people are going to be talking 1693 01:09:17,130 --> 01:09:14,950 about 15 years from now you watch so 1694 01:09:21,540 --> 01:09:17,140 that is a bold state is and I stand by 1695 01:09:22,980 --> 01:09:21,550 it and then there's another little fun 1696 01:09:24,810 --> 01:09:22,990 podcast for a company I do work for 1697 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:24,820 called a Sanford on the city there's 1698 01:09:28,350 --> 01:09:26,170 about two episodes now if you go to the 1699 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:28,360 New York tour one Facebook page you can 1700 01:09:33,990 --> 01:09:30,730 listen to those on there I love me some 1701 01:09:35,460 --> 01:09:34,000 podcasts me to my me yeah yeah well 1702 01:09:37,950 --> 01:09:35,470 thank you so much for joining me today 1703 01:09:40,830 --> 01:09:37,960 it was a healthy debates a blast I'm 1704 01:09:43,290 --> 01:09:40,840 gonna motivate conversation I that's the 1705 01:09:45,540 --> 01:09:43,300 thing I am open to legacy I want to know 1706 01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:45,550 more about Travis Walton I wanna I want 1707 01:09:51,750 --> 01:09:48,370 to believe look look at that guys we got 1708 01:09:54,330 --> 01:09:51,760 one more for travel as Mulder what do we 1709 01:09:57,420 --> 01:09:54,340 say I wanted to leave exactly thank you 1710 01:09:59,820 --> 01:09:57,430 so much Andrew thanks Ron all right that 1711 01:10:02,580 --> 01:09:59,830 is it for this week's first in-studio 1712 01:10:04,980 --> 01:10:02,590 interview I had to think Andrew once 1713 01:10:07,170 --> 01:10:04,990 again for coming on his work can be 1714 01:10:10,140 --> 01:10:07,180 found at half-white son of a black man 1715 01:10:12,690 --> 01:10:10,150 calm he is one of the nicest people I 1716 01:10:15,630 --> 01:10:12,700 know and it was so refreshing to talk to 1717 01:10:18,480 --> 01:10:15,640 an open-minded skeptic he is currently 1718 01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:18,490 reading my copy of fire in the sky the 1719 01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:21,250 Travis Walton experience so I'll have 1720 01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:22,930 him on again to see what he makes of the 1721 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:25,570 entire Travis Walton incident I also 1722 01:10:29,670 --> 01:10:27,730 want to take this opportunity to say 1723 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:29,680 that the show is going to become a bit 1724 01:10:33,250 --> 01:10:30,650 less real 1725 01:10:35,380 --> 01:10:33,260 and scripted moving forward I've 1726 01:10:37,450 --> 01:10:35,390 received a lot of feedback and I'll be 1727 01:10:40,420 --> 01:10:37,460 the first to admit I'm a slave to a 1728 01:10:43,750 --> 01:10:40,430 script so get used to hearing me be much 1729 01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:43,760 more laid-back unedited and just being 1730 01:10:47,590 --> 01:10:45,890 myself with all of you if you haven't 1731 01:10:49,900 --> 01:10:47,600 already please rate and review the show 1732 01:10:52,540 --> 01:10:49,910 wherever applicable and if you have any 1733 01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:52,550 guests or topic suggestions hit me up at 1734 01:10:56,530 --> 01:10:54,410 spread it somewhere in the skies calm 1735 01:10:58,090 --> 01:10:56,540 I've also got a ton going on over at the 1736 01:11:01,030 --> 01:10:58,100 website so please check that out 1737 01:11:03,310 --> 01:11:01,040 somewhere in the skies calm remember 1738 01:11:20,020 --> 01:11:03,320 keep your feet on the ground but never 1739 01:11:23,140 --> 01:11:20,030 stop searching somewhere in the sky this